
The Society of William Wallace Minutes of meeting held on Tuesday 15th November 2011 in Elderslie Village Hall at 8.00 p.m. Annual General Meeting.
Present
Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Brian McCutcheon, George Boyle, Neil Locheil, Jim Adams, Bill Pollok, Val Pollok, Gary Stewart, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, Jacob Gladwell, Andy Middleton, Neil Gibson, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, Tom Lavelle, Isabel Lavelle, Lesley Matthews, Lily Love, Chris MacLeod.
Apologies
Gini Craig, Peter Malcolm, Susan Coghill, Karen Owens, Gordon Aitken, Malcolm and Eddie MacNeill, Ziggy and Craig Wilson, Nick Brand.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present and outlined safety procedures for the hall.
All present had previously received copies of last month’s minutes and they were approved.
Duncan thanked all members for their contributions to help the Society in the past year. He then presented Lily, our Social Convenor, with a bouquet of flowers as a thank you from the Society for feeding & watering the hungry troops throughout the year.
All Office Bearers then stepped down, & George Boyle conducted the election of the new members.
The following were elected to the posts below.
| Convenor |
Duncan Fenton |
| Vice Convenor |
Gary Stewart |
| Treasurer |
George Boyle |
| Secretary |
Andy Middleton |
| Minute Secretary |
Christine MacLeod |
| Webmaster |
George Boyle |
| Press & Media Officer |
Irene Clarke |
| Merchandise Officer |
Ziggy Wilson |
| Assistant Merchandise Officer |
Craig Wilson |
| Social Convenor |
Lily Love |
| Committee Member |
William Ballantyne |
| Committee Member |
Gordon Aitken |
| USA Fundraising Coodrinator |
Randy Dedrickson |
With nothing much new to report since last month, members discussed forthcoming plans for the year ahead, including the 700th Anniversary of Bannockburn & the Centenary Year for the Society.
Plans were made to hold a memorial service for the late Davie Ross, at Robroyston Wallace Monument, on 2nd January 2012, as we did last year.
Date of Next Meeting
Tuesday 17th of January 2012
7.45pm Elderslie Village Hall
All welcome.
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The Society of William Wallace Minutes of meeting held on Tuesday 18th October 2011 in Elderslie Village Hall at 8.00 p.m.
Present
Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Brian McCutcheon, George Boyle, Jim Adams, Bill Pollok, Val Pollok, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, Jacob Gladwell, James Wallace, Neil Gibson, Lesley Matthews, Lily Love.
Apologies
Chris MacLeod, Gini Craig, Peter Malcolm, Susan Coghill, Karen Owens, Gordon Aitken, Gary Stewart, Andy Middleton, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, Tom Lavelle, Irene Lavelle, Malcolm and Eddie MacNeill, Ziggy and Craig Wilson, Nick Brand.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present and outlined safety procedures for the hall. He welcomed James Wallace to his first meeting.
He then introduced the office bearers in turn and the following is a summary of their activities.
All present had previously received copies of last month’s minutes and they were approved.
Treasurers Report
George reported on the balance and cash flow of the society. There have been no outgoings this month but subscription fees continue to come in.
The website & Facebook page continue to do well. George appealed for members to send in items for inclusion.
George has received the certificate for the tree which was planted in Davie Ross’s memory in The Whispering Wood in Comrie. This was an idea proposed by Stephanie Vaught, Vice President & Director of Society of William Wallace USA, one of Davie’s very good friends. She had already planted one for Davie. It is part of a project called Trees4Scotland. The dedication reads,
“To our dear friend, David R. Ross, who left us way too soon.
From everyone at the Society of William Wallace.”
Vice Convenor’s report
Gary sent Duncan his report as he was unable to attend the meeting.
Gary is still trying to find out why Glasgow City Council Planning Dept. are now opposed to the idea of a cairn to mark the Battle of the Bell o’ the Brae, outside Glasgow Cathedral. After 8 months & 4 meetings, at which they were in agreement with the idea, they now seem to have changed stance.
Gary is still waiting to hear when the date that the Wallace Safe Conduct Letter will be returning, to be put on display alongside the Lubeck Letter early next year. Members of the Society will want to be there to welcome it back in the same way as the Stone of Destiny was returned in 1996.
Duncan showed members a copy of the letter sent to Gary by Culture Secretary, Fiona Hyslop. A quote from it;
“I wanted to write to express my thanks to the Wallace Society for your unstinting work in bringing this important document to public attention and my admiration for your long campaign.”
“We will be marking the exhibition with a reception and I would like to extend an advance invitation to the office bearers of the Wallace Society.”
Press and Media Officer
IIrene reported that the press are becoming more accurate when printing articles of a historical nature. We would like to think that the constant corrections by Irene & other members are finally having an effect.
Celtic Force are organising a Scottish Tour in March next year. They will visit historical sites & are planning a banquet at which members of the Society are invited.
Irene has booked them in to the Rob Roy Hotel for the 6th-7th, and the King Robert Hotel from the 9th – 10th.
More details will be given nearer the time.
Convenor’s report
Speakers. At last month’s meeting, a request was made to all members for names of potential speakers who would be interested in representing the society at events such as Loudon Hill, Robroyston & Elderslie. Several names have been put forward & will be approached. Thanks to all who proposed names.
Randy Dedrickson, president of the Society of William Wallace USA, has been in touch with Duncan. Their society will be holding a raffle for a claymore, donated to them by a Knight Templar friend. Proceeds will be sent to our Society to help fund the various projects Davie Ross was working on. He also asked if there were any other ideas we had that needed help with funding.
Duncan thanked him for their initiative on behalf of the members & informed him of the proposed cairn to Wallace at Glasgow Cathedral, the statue at Stirling Brig, & the fund for Bannockburn 2014, which was set up in David’s name after his passing. He also mentioned the idea of allowing people to purchase a stone for the cairn, receiving a certificate of thanks, with an appropriate image on it.
Randy liked this idea, & said he will pass on details to their members as he gets them.
Duncan sent a thank you letter to Marion Connelly, with a photo of her laying the floral tribute at the Wallace Memorial in Elderslie, at this year’s Wallace Day. Thanks for the pic, George.
Johnstone Castle Archie & Jean sent Duncan a news clipping showing a photo of the newly-renovated Johnstone Castle, not far away from us. The new owner has restored it from a ruin. Jim Adams said he visited it during last month’s Doors Open Day project.
Annual subscriptions
Duncan thanked all those who have sent in their annual fees, & asked those have not done so yet to do so. He also thanked the many members who gave sizeable donations. This all helps to keep the spirit & the memory of Wallace in the forefront of the minds of the public.
AOCB
Neil & Lesley told members of their latest venture of printing & selling T-shirts with a Scottish theme. They have approached the Andrew de Moray Project & our Society with a proposal to sell a specially designed T-shirt, some of the proceeds of which will go towards the fund for the statue of the two heroes at Stirling Bridge. Thanks to Duncan Brown, as he has given permission for his fantastic painting of the two warriors to be used as the design.
An accomplished artist & friend, examples of Duncan’s work can be seen at HERE
Lesley said that every T-shirt would be sent out with a leaflet advertising the SOWW, ADM Project, Handpict & their own company, Proud Clothing.
This proposal met with the approval of the members.
The meeting ended with the customary refreshments, thanks to Lily.
Date of Next Meeting, which will be the AGM
Tuesday 15th of November 2011 7.45pm Elderslie Village Hall
Serving Office Bearers will stand down & new ones will be elected.
Everyone welcome!!!
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The Society of William Wallace Minutes of meeting held on Tuesday 20th September 2011 in Elderslie Village Hall at 8.00 p.m.
Present
Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Brian McCutcheon, Gary Stewart, George Boyle, Andy Middleton, Jim Adams, Bill Pollok, Val Pollok, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, , Gordon Aitken, Lily Love, Chris MacLeod.
Apologies
Gini Craig, Peter Malcom, Susan Coghill, Karen Owens, Malcolm and Eddie MacNeill, Ziggy and Craig Wilson, Nick Brand.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present and outlined safety procedures for the hall.
He introduced the office bearers in turn and the following is a summary of their activities.
All present had previously received copies of last month’s minutes and they were approved.
Treasurers Report
George reported on the balance and cash flow of the society. Flowers, quaichs, hall hire, Crann Tara donation, the bar, 4 bands, including the pipe band, new badges, t-shirts, fee for joining The Renfrewshire Local History Forum, tree planting and update of website were all outgoings last month.
Considering the huge amount of outgoings, there was only a slight loss as some income was generated through Wallace Day afternoon and evening events.
All present agreed that the cost of the hall was very expensive, having doubled in cost of hire from last year. Gary will investigate, on behalf of the Society, whether the cost of hall hire is negotiable. Another alternative is to hire the hall from 5pm. Should it be retained at hiring from 12 noon, a suggestion was made that there could be an activity in the hall e.g. school performances.
Use of bar facilities are now no longer in direct council control but under a Leisure Trust. This means that there is a difference between a community rate (before 5pm) and a social rate (after 5pm).
Gary will also investigate the possibility of some sort of sponsored booklet for sale on Wallace Day.
All agreed that 3 bands were too much in the evening. This has an adverse effect on bar takings as people wanted to stay in the hall to listen to the music rather than go to the bar.
The charge of £15 was thought by some to be prohibitive, although this was accepted to be necessary to cover the cost of the extra entertainment.
Duncan thanked everyone present on the evening for their support and encouraged all to try out new ideas and learn from the experience. “Variation is the key”.
Members of The Society attended the Stirling Commemoration recently and the feedback was that it was a great day.
Website (George). All is well at present.
Vice Convenor’s report.
Gary expressed the feelings of all present on the good news reported in the press on the return of the Letter of Safe Conduct. He was in touch with Catherine from The National Archives of Scotland, but the date and location are not yet known.
MSP Christine Graham was in touch with Duncan and praised everyone involved. A possible meeting of Society members to turn up outside the Scottish Parliament building to welcome the letter back, was discussed.
The Lubeck Letter will also be discussed by Gary when in touch with The National Archives.
Duncan suggested that the Society let the local press know about us welcoming the letter back at the Parliament to get more awareness in the public eye.
Battle of the Bell o’ The Brae. Since there had been no objections plans to commemorate the battle, Duncan and George met recently with Andrew McConnell, Colin Tytler and Gerry Mimnagh from Glasgow City Council. They showed them a photograph of the cairn at Falkirk. The council officials were not very happy about the design which they thought was more akin to a rural setting, but did not offer any ideas. The representatives appeared to now be blocking something as the plans had sailed though until there was a possibility of it actually happening. Local MSP Sandra White has offered to help.
Mary Queen of Scots Plaque. The Society continues to wait until funding is available.
It was suggested that every committee member should have a copy of the march permission letter on their person on Wallace Day. This is to avoid any misunderstandings by the local police, as happened a few years ago.
Members are urged to consider plans for Bannockburn 2014 now, considering the amount of work taken to arrange the 2005 commemoration. It is possible that The Scottish Government will put something in place as they did for the Homecoming in 2009. Time to find out.
Press and Media Officer
Irene reported that Paula Murray of the Scottish Daily Express had spoken to Gary regarding the Safe Conduct Letter.
She also informed all present as to how fantastic the Stirling Bridge event was.
Convenor’s report
Duncan reported on the launch of Dina’s book, “The Boy and the Well of Memory”, at Stirling Smith Museum recently. This will be covered in the following newsletter.
Whilst at Dina’s book launch, Duncan asked Elspeth King, & her partner, Michael Donnelly, if they would like to speak at next year’s Wallace Day. Michael has agreed.
Duncan echoed Irene’s comments about the Stirling Brig Commeroration this year. A great day all round.
Duncan thanked Dina for her very generous donation to the Society.
Duncan also thanked everyone who has paid their annual dues & asked for those who haven’t to do so.
Duncan has sent a letter of thanks to John Newlands for his very informative talk on the Wallace Stone at the last meeting. Gary will contact Dr Fiona Watson regarding the stone discovered at Elderslie Estates for her opinion.
Members Andrew & Linda Howe are doing boxed canvasses on a Scottish theme. They also do wall plaques. Examples of their work can be seen HERE
Speakers. A request was made to all members for names of potential speakers who would be interested in representing the society at events such as Loudon Hill, Robroyston & Elderslie.
Congratulations. All present thanked Society member William Ballantyne for his great speech at Wallace Day. A transcript of the speech is available on the Society web page.
The Education Scotland website has indeed altered its wording relating to Wallace on their web page. This is in response to emails from various individuals, Gary included. Duncan sent a formal request that it be amended on behalf of the Society.
Stirling Bridge. To commemorate the foundation of the plaque at Stirling Bridge, Society member Gordon Aitken invited all to meet at the tree for 2pm. A small stone has been gathered from Abbey Craig, Elderslie, Robroyston and Loudon hill and will be included in the design. Duncan suggested taking in a visit to Cambuskenneth Abbey afterwards to lay a tribute on the “marker stones” there.
Tree for David. Stephanie from Wallace USA is to plant a commemorative tree in the Whispering Wood at Comrie in Perthshire. Another tree is to be planted close by on behalf of the Society. Duncan thanked Stephanie for her idea and sentiment.
Robroyston land. Following a phone conversation with a reporter friend of Duncan, who has been looking up land registry records, it is now known that the owners of the land on which the monument at Robroyston stands is Stuart Milne Homes.
Society member Marion MacMillan passed on information on the Lundie paper rolls. David Brown will be giving a talk at Hillhead Library on 15th October at 5pm at the cost of £1.
All members of the Society present voted unaminously to make a donation to Leo and Donald who are trying to raise funds for a wheelchair accessible cot for the baby of Lachlan and Amber. There are holding a sponsored motorbike wash dressed as the parents-to-be.
AOCB. Finally a short discussion was held on the size of plaids worn at events by members of The Society with a view to ordering a suitable length and width to be woven to the design of Chris MacLeod based on the centenary celebration of The Wallace Monument in Elderslie.
The meeting ended with the customary refreshments, thanks to Lily.
Date of Next Meeting
Tuesday 18th of October 2011 7.45pm Elderslie Village Hall Everyone welcome!!!
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The Society of William Wallace
Minutes of meeting held on Tuesday 16th August in Elderslie Village Hall at 8.00 p.m.
Present
Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Lily Love, Gary Stewart, George Boyle, Neil Lochiel, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, Bill Pollok, Val Pollok, John Newlands, Mae Duggan, Peter Malcolm, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, Chris MacLeod, Gordon Aitken, Richard Quinn.
Apologies
Andy Middleton, Susan Coghill, Tom Lavelle, Irene Lavelle, Jennifer Boyle, Michael Reid.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present and outlined safety procedures for the hall.
He introduced the office bearers in turn and the following is a summary of their activities.
All present had previously received copies of last month’s minutes and they were approved.
Treasurers Report
George reported on the balance and cash flow of the society. With a roughly equal amount of income and expenditure. Income through memberships and donations, expenditure through the archival of the Walk for Wallace web site, wreaths, quaich and engraving of t-shirt screens.
Regarding Wallace Day, the bar and hall fees have been paid, the licence granted, and police contacted requesting, and assurance given, that they will be present throughout the event.
Webmasters Report
The website continues to be a good vehicle for information on the Society.
Press and Media officer
Irene drew the attention of members to the media coverage of the “British Riots”, when they were clearly not.
She also reminded all present on the law regarding the bar, alcohol at the
Hall, and smoking.
Vice Convenors Report
Gary told us that plans to return the letter of safe conduct continues to make quiet progress.
A representative from the National Wallace Monument in Stirling unfortunately cannot attend as a speaker for Wallace Day. A replacement is to be found.
The plans for the monument at Glasgow Cathedral area have had no objections and therefore the next steps are to be followed. When this is finalised, it was agreed that the Society request some kind of information board to be added and a padlock key to be given to the society to enable commemorative wreaths etc to be laid.
Gary was invited to attend a Piping Live event by councillor David Turner as a representative of the Society.
A short discussion was held including all present on a request that the Society support a possible commemoration of the Battle of Langside where Mary queen of Scots was present. It was agreed that the Society would find out more about the organisation before making a decision to support the plan.
Gary has initiated discussions with some radio stations to encourage them to support the release of Ted Christopher’s CD.
A caricaturist offered to attend Wallace Day. The Society had no objections to him turning up without a fee.
Gary has invited Peter Yeomen, head of Cultural Resources of Historic Scotland to Wallace Day.
Convenor’s Report
Update on the planning permission for the Bell o’ the Brae Cairn.
When the ground is opened at the area close to Glasgow Cathedral, The West of Scotland Archaeology Group insist that a member be present. It is unclear as yet if this is to be paid for. Duncan will contact Glasgow Archaeology Unit head, Dr Tony Pollard for advice. The area has been previously excavated and earth levels moved in the late 19th century. It is thought that the actual level is much lower than the current ground level.
Duncan received a phone call from journalist Mark Howarth, regarding land registration at the Robroyston site. There will be an article in the Scottish Daily Mail.
2014. Members are asked to let Duncan know of their intentions to book The King Robert Hotel at Bannockburn as soon as possible. A list of names will be compiled.
Wallace Day. Arrangements were finalised by all present on the hall, stalls, flags and PA system. Wreath layers (Marion Connelly and Anne Gladwell) from England and Ireland. Song sheets with the words of Scots Wha Hae will be distributed at the monument. Donation tins will also be circulated.
Dina’s book launch will occur on Friday 9th September at 2.00pm
The Annual Stirling Bridge march & commemoration will take place in the evening at 7.00pm.
Duncan reminded members of Doors Open Day, throughout September, times vary according to area. This is an excellent opportunity to access for free, listed places which may not usually be open to the public, or there is a fee. Check their website for details.
Sundial at Cumbernauld House. A new owner proposes to divide this listed building into flats. In answer to Duncan enquiry, the original Victorian garden is to be recreated, & the sundial re-sited to its original location.
Thanks to Jean and Archie Millar for donation of alcohol for the bar.
Duncan thanked Abbey Stewart on behalf of the Society for laying the wreath at the Robroyston commemoration.
Duncan then introduced the Society to John Newlands who provided very interesting insight into his research on a possible link to William Wallace.
Through his research he located a long lost stone which was known to have been in existence 200 years ago. The stone was inscribed and thought to have been part of the medieval house on the site of Wallace’s birthplace in Elderslie. The house was owned by the Spiers family, who made their fortune through the economic expansion in the early 18th century through tobacco, cotton and other lucrative commodities. Today their surviving assets are managed under the name Elderslie Estates. It was in one of their store houses that John found the missing stone.
The stone is unusually chiselled in lowland Scots “Christ is only my redeemer”, is clearly part of a much larger stone with some form of emblem in the background, possibly a welsh dragon, with a possible date including what looks like …24.
All present agreed that this was a very important find and required historians to research this more fully. John gave his permission for Gary to contact Dr Fiona Watson for her advice and asked that recognition be given to Elderslie Estates for their kind assistance and co-operation.
Duncan thanked John for sharing his research with all present.
The meeting ended with the customary refreshments, thanks to Lily.
Date of Next Meeting
Tuesday 20th of September 2011 7.45pm Elderslie Village Hall
Everyone welcome!!!
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I’d like to take this opportunity to say a great big thank you to everyone who attended the Annual Wallace Day Commemoration.
For all the hard work put in by the many folk who were involved.
From dressing the monument & setting up the PA, working the door, the bar & tea room, selling the merchandise & all the many little details that added up to a great day & a truly memorable evening.
The performers were superb & there was a real buzz about the place. Everyone just got on with the business of having a terrific time.
On behalf of the Society of William Wallace, you have my heartfelt thanks, & hope to see you all again next year.
Members attended the launch of Dina Ritsou’s book, “The Boy and the Well of Memory” at Smith Art Gallery in Stirling.
Later that evening, we also attended the March & Commemoration of the Battle of Stirling Bridge, run by Ted Christopher.
There will reports of this & of Wallace Day on our website soon.
All in all, we have had a very busy year, & I have thoroughly enjoyed every moment of it. |
MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL GENERAL MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 19th JUly 2011 AT 8.00 PM.
Present
Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Gary Stewart, Jim Adams, Dorothy Adams, Bill Pollok, Val Pollok, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, Lily Love, Lesley Matthews, William Ballantyne, Richard Quinn, Mae Duggan, George Boyle, Chris MacLeod.
Apologies
Peter Malcolm, Eddie MacNeill, Malcolm MacNeill, Brian McCutcheon, Gini Craig, Ziggy Wilson, Craig Wilson, Alex Scullion, Fiona Douglas, Tom Lavelle, Isobel Lavelle, Anne Gladwell, Jennifer Boyle, Michael Reid, Susan Coghill.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present as usual and outlined safety procedures for the hall. He especially welcomed those who attended the meeting for the first time. He introduced the office bearers in turn and the following is a summary of their activities.
All present had previously received copies of last month’s minutes and they were approved.
Treasurers Report
George reported on the balance and cash flow of the society. Last month’s outgoings were mainly related to a drinks licence for Wallace Day, a tribute wreath and planning charges.
He also reminded all members that annual subscriptions are due soon.
The police will be contacted 2 weeks prior to Wallace day to ensure they will be present for traffic control on the day.
Webmasters Report
The website continues to do well and all members are encouraged to send items to the webmaster for possible inclusion.
Facebook is proving to be a great communication tool.
George also reported on the recent events at the Bannockburn commemoration which all present there enjoyed.
Wallace USA
The Group recently held their AGM at Grandfather Mountain, North Carolina. Eric and Stephanie are now the main link with Scotland. They have re launched the group as William Wallace USA.
Press and Media officer
Irene drew the attention of members to the change in phrasing of the notice in the newspaper’s TV section advertising the film Braveheart from that of “rebel” to “Scottish patriot who fought for his country’s freedom”.
She reported that the police will continue to be of assistance at the evening ceilidh in the village hall on Wallace Day. Members were reminded that no alcohol was to be consumed outside the village hall on Wallace Day.
Irene has asked all members to let the committee know of their intentions to book the King Robert Hotel for Bannockburn in 2014. The cost is £100.00 per night, bed and breakfast. The Rob Roy Hotel, 20 miles away, is also available. The King Robert will supply a free shuttle bus to & from the Rob Roy. Rooms will be offered firstly to members of the Society.
Falkirk Commemoration
This was a good day with a very good speech by Sarah Crome. The Society’s wreath was laid by Irene.
Vice Convenors Report
Gary reported that he had an email from a representative from The National Archives. There is still no definite date on the return of the Letter of Safe Conduct.
Regarding the monument to the battle of the Bell ‘o the Brae in Glasgow, the closing date for objections has now been reached. If there are none, the decision will be made by the Glasgow City Council planning officer.
New CD
Moves continue to be made by Gary and Duncan to promote the fundraising CD by Ted Christopher.
Wallace Monument 150 year celebration
At the recent anniversary of the laying of the foundation stone, several members attended & received a commemorative medal. Gary & Richard Quinn brought theirs in to show members. Gary continues to try to find ways in which the Society could be promoted at the site including the possibility that the 2005 coffin and other items could be displayed there. He has persuaded them to put our membership forms on display.
Lesley Matthews suggested approaching them about selling our Society T-shirts there as well.
Convenors Report
Education Scotland.gov website, used extensively by schools, were using misleading terms in a biased way in relation to Wallace and Bruce. Duncan raised his concerns and received a reply informing him that they intend to review the relevant parts.
Duncan informed members of the forthcoming Wallace 700 Commemoration at Aberdeen on 30th July.
Duncan showed members a printed screenshot from British Library Online. It showed a page from an old book, the Rochester Chronicles. It contained a report of the Battle of Falkirk in 1298 & had a drawing of the battle in the bottom margin of the page. You can find the link HERE
Members present were informed of an incident which occurred during the march at Bannockburn where a car was driven through the marchers. The police are looking into it. A number of Society members witnessed the incident and all agreed to supply statements.
The Wallace Day plans are going well. Tulliallan Pipe Band will be present and lead the procession from Johnstone. Speeches will follow at the monument. Thereafter all are encouraged to visit the village hall, where there will be a bar and tearoom, with a ceilidh in the evening. Due to the increasing cost of staging the event, the price of the ticket for the evening entertainment will be £15.00 per person.
Social convenor, Lily Love asked for donations of home baking, sandwiches etc on the day.
An appeal was also made for items to be used as raffle prizes. The money raised will help fund the day.
Argentina
Member Mariana Boubee from the William Wallace School in Buenos Aires is encouraging a cultural interchange via email. Duncan will put her in touch with a few schools.
AOCB
Society members present heard of a new business venture by Lesley Matthews & Neil Gibson, who design t-shirts: proudclothing.co.uk. They have offered to promote some other merchandise offered by the Society and are happy to have a books page including David’s.
Any donations to the site will go towards supplying history books for schools.
Duncan wished them well for the future.
Quaich
The David R. Ross Memorial Quaich which was supplied by Irene & Paul in David’s memory went to Gary Stewart last year for his work on securing the return of the Wallace Letter from Kew.
It was decided that the Society purchase a smaller version, which could be kept as a keepsake, when the original is handed back each year. George has priced these at less than £40, including engraving, which all agreed was a good deal.
Robroyston
The upgrade of the site at Wallace’s Well was discussed. This has undergone a huge transformation in the last few months, with the council rebuilding the collapsed wall, cleaning all the stonework & digging out all the weeds which were choking the burn.
The adjacent site of the Wallace Memorial Cross is also looking great, thanks to the unstinting efforts of Andy Middleton, who has done a terrific job here. Just in time for the Robroyston Commemoration on 6th August.
Tartan
William Ballantyne suggested the possibility of a tartan being designed to commemorate the Society’s centenary.
This could be then made up into plaids, kilts, skirts etc, for members to wear at the 100th anniversary in 2012. This will be discussed further.
As a weaver herself, Christine could advise on how to go about this, & designing it.
We met & recruited new member Paul Egan at Bannockburn. He also came to Falkirk & will attend Wallace Day. Welcome aboard!
The meeting ended with the customary jokes….and thanks to Lily for the tea afterwards!
Tuesday 16th August 2011 7.45pm Elderslie Village Hall, everyone welcome!!! |
MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL GENERAL MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 21st JUNE 2011 AT 8.00 PM.
Present
Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Brian McCutcheon, Gini Craig, Mae Duggan, Gary Stewart, Neil Lochiel, Chris MacLeod, Richard Quinn, Jean Millar, ArchieMillar, Tom Lavelle, Isabel Lavelle, George Boyle.
Apologies
Nick Brand, Malcolm MacNeill, Eddie MacNeill, Ziggy Wilson, Craig Wilson, Gordon Aitken, Lily Love, Jennifer Boyle, Michael Reid, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, Andy Middleton, Susan Coghill, Alex Scullion, Fiona Douglas.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present and outlined safety procedures for the hall. He introduced the office bearers in turn and the following is a summary of their activities.
All present had previously received copies of last month’s minutes and they were approved by all present.
He reminded members to please contact him if there is any alteration to contact details. Unfortunately a number of e newsletters have returned to him recently due to incorrect email addresses.
Treasurers Report
George Boyle, George reported on the balance and cash flow of the society. Little alteration was made to the Society funds this month. The largest amount paid out was the cost of the planning application for the proposed memorial in the vicinity of Glasgow Cathedral.
George also reported on the recent community Fun Day at Robroyston where he, Gary Stewart and Andy Middleton represented the Society and had much fun with weaponry! The event was very well attended including a police presence. No accident occurred and the blood-like stain on the floor was hair dye and the kids loved it!…see facebook page for pictures. Hopefully this will occur again next year.
Wallace memorial in Elderslie,
George recently visited Paisley Reference Library. There is a folder in Paisley there regarding the memorial. Also is a “Wallace Scrapbook” of early 20th century press cuttings which are well worth a look at.
Webmasters Report
George Boyle, All members are encouraged to regularly take a look at The Society’s website and Facebook page.
New information and pictures can be forwarded to George.
Vice Convenors Report
Gary Stewart, This year is the 150th anniversary of the laying of the foundation stone at The National Wallace Monument in Stirling. On the 24th of June 2011 medals were given to the first 150 who entered. Duncan showed members a photograph of the original medallion given to visitors in 1861. Thanks to Flora Strachan for lending this. Apparently 80,000 people were present at the laying of the stone at that time, a huge number considering the transportation and communication systems of the period. Society member Hugh Robertson has been asked to perform a re-enactment on the occasion.
The Battle of The Bell o’ The Brae Cairn,
Gary submitted a detailed technical drawing showing dimensions & materials, drawn up by Duncan, which meet the requirements of Glasgow City Council. A reply is expected within two months.
The Wallace Letter,
A date will be known by the end of the year as to the date of the return.
Mary Queen of Scots Plaque,
This plaque in Cathcart has been removed for the grafitti to be cleaned off. Gary has been in touch with the local MSP who will confirm when it will be reinstated.
South Side Fun Day (Glasgow)
Gary identified this as a possibility for future involvement.
The BBC website commented on the Prestonpans exhibition of Jacobite tapestries & other artefacts. This time they have called it an “uprising” rather than their usual”rebellion” It seems things are starting to change for the better.
Important CD
The Society will hear soon when Ted Christopher’s fundraising CD will be available. It was suggested that mid to late January be an optimum time for the release, being the best time to hit the charts.
Membership forms
It was thought that The National Wallace Monument in Stirling was considered to be an ideal place for membership forms to be placed. Gary will speak to the custodians to suggest this.
Press and Media officer
Irene informed members that Wallace documents are now available to read online via The British Library.
Irene, Duncan and partners represented the Society at the commemoration in Avoch. Irene laid roses on the Society’s behalf. Duncan presented the new the flag on behalf of the Society.
At their AGM, the society discussed ways in which they could assist promoting the membership of the Andrew De Moray Project which has done so much to raise the awareness of the important link with Avoch in terms of Scottish history.
2014
Thanks to Irene, The King Robert Hotel and The Rob Roy has been booked for the commemoration, members are reminded that this is not too far off!
Convenor,
Condorrat Memorial, Duncan attended the recent unveiling of a new memorial in Condorrat. Members present were shown a new plaque commemorating 3 events in the area. The 1820 Radicals Rising, the Auchengeoch Mining Disaster and The Great Wars. A great job was done by local craftsmen. All are encouraged to visit it.
Duncan spoke about a notice he recently received from someone searching their family tree. They have suggested that the Sheriff of Lanark that Wallace killed, may not have been Heselrig, but Andrew de Livingstone. According to this man’s research, there are records of a Livingstone being sheriff up to 1297, & after that his name disappears from the records. It has been stated that the only writer who actually put a name to the sheriff of Lanark was Blind Harry. Duncan will look into this further.
Member Colin McKenzie contacted Duncan who told him that he had just attended a concert in London by John Parr, of St. Elmo’s Fire fame. He has released a new album & one of the songs he has written is called “At the Cathedral”, in which he mentions William Wallace & Robert the Bruce. Colin will try to arrange a copy for the Society.
Member Debbie Bardo sent Duncan an old book called “The Days of Bruce” by Grace Aguilar. Debbie had met the late Davie Ross a few years ago & promised him the book but never got the chance to give him it. Duncan thanked her on behalf of the Society.
Wallace’s Well,
An amazing amount of work has recently been completed. The whole wall has been underpinned & rebuilt, stonework has been cleaned & repointed & all the weeds from the burn have been removed, deepening the channel & allowing the water to flow faster, which will prevent future stagnation. Duncan showed photos of this amazing transformation to members.
AOCB
New Painting, Society members were shown a copy of a picture of David Ross produced by Andy Hillhouse. All present were very impressed by it. It was envisaged that the original could be placed with the coffin, plaid and sword and copies in card form could be used appropriately and with respect, to promote the society.
CD’s and future fundraising
There was some discussion regarding the prioritisation of funds before the release of the CD. Rather than supporting many causes, perhaps the identification of one at a time may be the best way forward. The discussion will continue.
Forthcoming events
The Bannockburn Commemoration will be held on 25th June. Duncan has been asked to speak.
The Commemoration of the Battle of Falkirk will be held on16th July
All members were encouraged to attend & support these events. Details can be found on the website.
Wallace Yew
Society members Jean and Archie reported that a sapling grown from the original Wallace Yew was planted close to its parent in Elderslie, within the railed area. Children from the local school participated. There was press coverage from the local newspapers.
Date of Next Meeting Tuesday 19th July 2011, 7.45pm
Elderslie Village Hall
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MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL GENERAL MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 17th MAY 2011 AT 8.00 PM.
Present Duncan Fenton, Gary Stewart, Andrew Ballantyne, Irene Clarke, Andy Middleton, Gordon Aitken, Jim Adams, Richard Quinn, Kimberley Ross, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, Tom Lavelle, Isabel Lavelle, Anne Gladwell, George Boyle, Chris MacLeod, Lesley Matthews, Neil Gibson.
Apologies Neil Lochiel, Nick Brand, Eddie and Malcolm MacNeill, Ziggy & Craig Wilson, Lily Love, Karen Owens, Susan Coghill.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present and outlined safety procedures for the hall. He introduced the office bearers in turn and the following is a summary of their activities.
All present had previously received copies of the minutes of the previous month.
Treasurers Report George reported on the balance and cash flow of the society. Income and expenditure remains much as it had been in the previous month, with some expenditure on wreaths and planning permission.
The Wallace Cairn, George mentioned the work of Ron Henderson, whose stone sculpture we are hoping to use as a template for us to make a replica for inclusion in the proposed Bell o’ the Brae Cairn.
The materials used were discussed. If a mould was made in resin another could be made in the future. Fibreglass replicas such as the footprint at Dunadd hillfort are used extensively to preserve originals. A suggestion was made regarding the missing sword at The Wallace Memorial in Elderslie that the Clan Wallace could be contacted regarding possibly funding a replacement, made in a similar manner.
Final details were made for visit to Wallacewell School Fun Day at Robroyston. George, Gary & Andy Middleton will attend.
George reported on our recent Loudoun Hill Commemoration, in conjunction with the Strathleven Artisans. All agreed it went well for a first time event, with a turnout of around 70 people.
George has been in contact with Paisley Library. He has arranged to meet David Weir, Heritage Officer at Renfrewshire Libraries which holds scrapbook archives, including information on the campaign to get the Elderslie monument built. He also may be able to offer help with locating boards that were used for display purposes in Paisley Museum in the 2005 period, which may be of use to the Society.
They will look for anything relating to Wallace in the area, old photos, documents, etc.
Press and Media Officer Irene drew the attention of the Society to a number of historical inaccuracies this month including the BBC coverage of the queen’s visit to Dublin and the “800 years of British monarchy”.
Irene also highlighted the press coverage of a historian who has studied the pipe rolls in Kew. He suggested that Wallace had “falsely saught to call himself king of Scotland”.
The members agreed this was errant nonsense. All historians agree that Wallace fought consistently in the name of his King, John Balliol.
Andy Hillhouse has been asked to do a picture of David. Copies of which could be used for fundraising purposes. Prints could be used to be included within David’s book with Kimberley’s signature on. The original could be placed on display with the Wallace coffin, sword and plaid. Approval was given by Kimberley.
A list of David’s books have been collated and are now on a word document for use by the society, as are photographs of available t-shirts.
Vice Convenor’s Report Gary mentioned that the minutes of meeting of 7th March re Wallace Letter are now published on NAS website.
Planning application now lodged with Glasgow City Council for BOTB cairn.
Liam Doris, the schoolboy who impressed Gary with his knowledge of Wallace during Gary’s recent visit to St. Mary’s Primary School in Caldercruix, was awarded an honorary membership of the Society for his efforts. The local newspaper covered the story & the news cutting is now on our website.
Campaign to get a song to Number 1 in the charts Members are encouraged to support Ted Christopher’s song “I’m Coming Home” which will raise awareness and funds for Bannockburn 2014. Scottish charts, Celtic Radio, Celtic Force and Facebook were suggested as possible places which could support the campaign.
Convenors report Duncan represented the Society at the first anniversary of the opening of the Robert the Bruce Heritage Centre in Renton, run by the Strathleven Artizans.
Loudon Hill A great day was had at the recent commemoration, with photographs on the Society’s website. This was the first of a joint venture between the Strathleven Artizans & the SOWW. Thanks were expressed by Duncan to all those who helped get things going the right way!
Society member Neil Locheil sent in some ideas, one of which was: a way of remembering David Ross in some more permanent way. He suggested that David’s name remained on the Society membership as “perpetuent moris mori”….perpetual despite death.
Final details were made for Andrew de Moray Flag Raising Ceremony in Avoch. Duncan & Irene will attend.
Duncan visited Cambuskenneth Abbey to see the repaired graveslab of King James III. Historic Scotland had contacted Irene to inform us of its return. Duncan took photos of all stones in the belltower, but none seem to fit their description, which describes it as “blue Tournai marble”.
Duncan e-mailed them to ask for a photo of the stone, which they duly sent. Duncan passed round their photo & his own photos of the stones in the tower. Their photo doesn’t seem to match anything there. Duncan has sent them another e-mail for clarification.
Duncan thanked Archie & Jean for copy of Paisley Daily Express, whose front cover carried a story of the proposed Wallace monument, by Sandy Stoddart, for Saucel Hill, in Paisley. The story stated that this would cost £3 million & planning application was made by the “William Wallace Group”.
Duncan wrote to the paper asking who this group was, because it could be inferred from the article that it was our society. He also wanted to know where the figure of £3 million came from, as the Daily Mail also reported on this, quoting a figure of £2 million.
Duncan pointed out that as we are trying to raise funds for the Bell o’ the Brae Cairn, this article might put people off donating in these tough economic times.
Archie also brought in a magazine article on the Cadger’s Brig, in Biggar, which has a Wallace connection. As Gordon knows the area well, Duncan asked him to read out the article.
A plaque at The Cross Keys Inn tells the story.
Greenhills Covenanters Museum was also a recommended site to visit.
It was suggested that a tour of Wallace related sites such as the above would be possible. All present thought that this would be a good idea.
Robroyston Duncan received an e-mail from Gordon Blackwood. He had written to local councillors & MSP’s to highlight the problems surrounding the wall at Wallace’s Well. He had received assurances that there will be road safety measures put in place. These included road markings and chevrons, & a larger “Give Way” sign, but as yet, are not in place. Since he last visited, all that has been done is the repainting of the ‘Slow’ marking on the road.
Duncan thanked him & will investigate further. A discussion ensued on how best to take this forward. Gary suggested speaking to Wallacewell School to inquire if we could involve them in a road safety campaign to highlight the dangers to pedestrians at this site.
Stamps and Postcards Duncan has sent the producer of the stamps and postcards an honorary membership on behalf of the Society.
Mar’s Wark, Stirling Members present were shown photographs of a statue of a woman in a winding sheet, on the wall of Mar’s Wark. A ceramic equivalent showed more detail. This is kept in the Stirling Smith Museum. It is thought that this is Joan of Arc at the stake, bound before being burned at the stake at Rouen. Locals are known to refer to this statue as Jeannie Dark, which makes sense when the story is explained! Duncan thanked Dr. Elspeth King, who supplied some information when he was researching this some years ago.
AOCB Duncan thanked Jean Laidlaw for the information that G.A. Henty’s book, “In Freedom’s Cause” is now available free to download from HERE
Photographs were shown to members of the Wallace House in Elderslie, along with the original drawing of the monument. Thanks to Andrew Ballantyne.
The meeting ended with no tea, but customary good humour, including 2 new positions available to society members…1. a navigator and 2. someone to make sure the banner is the correct way round (all those present at Loudon Hill will understand completely!)
Next Meeting Tuesday 21st June, 2011 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm. Everyone Welcome! |
MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL GENERAL MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 15th APRIL 2011 AT 8.00 PM.
Present
Duncan Fenton, Lily Love, Irene Clarke, Brian McCuthcheon, Gini Graig, Neil Lochiel, Peter Malcolm, Archie Millar, Jean Millar, Isabel Lavelle, Tom Lavelle, Gary Stewart, George Boyle, Chris MacLeod, Andrew Ballantyne.
Apologies
Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Ziggy Wilson, Craig Wilson, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, Susan Coghill, Nick Brand, Eddie & Malcolm MacNeill.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present and outlined safety procedures for the hall. He introduced the office bearers in turn and the following is a summary of their activities.
All present had previously received copies of last month’s minutes and they were approved.
Treasurers Report
George reported on the balance and cash flow of the society which remains healthy, including those from the PayPal account.
As badges have sold well, he has ordered a re-run on behalf of The Society.
A wreath of flowers was laid by Gary Stewart on behalf of the Society, at the memorial to Wallace at Smithfield in London. Some members were in London for the Scotland v Brazil match. This was paid for by the Society.
Also included was the annual purchase of a Saltire which will be raised at Avoch in The Black Isle, showing solidarity with the memory of Andrew De Moray. The previous year’s saltire is removed and gifted to the person given the honour of initially raising the flag.
Group members were interested to note that the flag that Duncan received in 2004 is now interred in the time capsule in the cairn to Wallace at Falkirk.
Webmasters Report
George reported that Facebook communication is doing well.
Members are requested to continue to check the website for the latest information.
Vice Convenors Report
The Wallace letter, all present were more than pleased to hear of the very positive steps forward regarding the return of the Letter of Safe Conduct. Thanks to the perseverance and determination of a very committed team. Expect to hear more regarding this following the Scottish elections.
The Visit to London,
Gary reported on the visit to the site of the execution of Wallace. Many attended, including a number of members of the Tartan Army. Thanks were expressed by Gary on behalf of the Society to everyone who came along to pay their respects.
A young boy was chosen to lay the wreath. His proud father and grandfather were also in attendance at this very emotional moment.
Pictures of the event are available on Facebook.
Culloden,
The annual commemoration, hosted by the Inverness Gaelic Society, went very well. It included a group from the T.A. who had marched from Nairn.
Photographs are also available on Facebook.
Channel 5 interview,
Gary has been contacted by a member of the team who intend to make a programme on Wallace. More information is to follow.
Arbroath,
Gary also reported that he Annual commemoration at the Abbey went well, with a good attendance. Duncan was asked to speak at this event.
Press and Media officer
Irene had very little to report in terms of press coverage this month. This is unusual, but may be due to the increasing coverage of other issues prior to the election, but could also be due to the press getting better at researching their history!
Merchandise
Sales continue at a steady pace, with online sales including David’s book. For Freedom is currently out of stock. More are currently being ordered.
Desire Lines is also now available again.
Please check out the website for current stock.
Photographs of t-shirts may soon be made, which may increase sales.
Convenor’s Report
Robroyston, Duncan reported that the wall near the site of the monument is in a pitiful state, having virtually collapsed into the nearby burn. Duncan will voice his concerns on behalf of the Society again. The council stated that “the road will be straightened out”. The situation will continue to be monitored while other planning related issues are being tackled.
Sundials,
Duncan also made inquiries regarding the whereabouts of the sundial at Robroyston. An inventory check was made by Glasgow Museums, who confirmed they have it in storage in their purpose built facility in Nitshill. It is still packed up following its move from the Kelvin Hall. Duncan received an e-mail, stating that they will contact him when it is unpacked, & will make an appointment to view it & take photographs. In the meantime, they sent Duncan a photo of it before it was crated. Duncan showed this to members alongside a sketch of it from the 1700’s.
Australian Cairn,
Rabbie Dudgeon, who has obtained planning permission for a memorial to Wallace in Victoria, Australia, was very pleased with the approval of the use of a quote from David to be carved on the cairn. He plans to document and video the project. He was also very happy to hear the news of the Wallace letter.
Lanark,
John A MacKay, who was involved in Wallace 700 in Lanark has included the story of Wallace letter in his newsletter. A copy was sent to Duncan.
Stirling Statue,
A committee of 5 trustees has been formed for the purpose of fundraising for a statue of Wallace and De Moray at Stirling Bridge. This has potential to be an iconic focal point for the town. The group has put forward a motion for the council to begin the process through allocating £10,000. Ted Christopher has suggested many fundraising ideas which the Society will hear more of in future.
Cambuskenneth Abbey,
This Historic Scotland property has opened to the public in March.
The organisation has told us that the repaired graveslab of King James III has been reinstated in the belltower. Duncan will visit to take photos.
Stamps,
Previous suggestions of envelopes made with an amazing drawing of Wallace on, produced by John Mackay, are not viable at present. However, large stamps can be printed which can be attached to any envelope. This was thought to be an equally good idea.
Origins of The Society,
There was some debate as to when the Society was actually formed. Paisley Museum may be able to help with this. Knowing that the monument was unveiled in 1912, next year should be a special commemoration for the Society. It was agreed by all present that T- shirts be printed.
Loudon Hill Saturday 7th May,
Duncan, George and William met with councillors within the Darvel area finalising the details of the event prior to the commemoration. Darvel Music Festival will also be held on that day with an evening event planned.
Arbroath,
Duncan represented the Society and made a speech at the commemoration of the signing of the declaration of Arbroath.
Avoch,
Press and Media Officer, Irene, along with Duncan, will represent the Society at this commemoration.
Robroyston Fun Day,
Vice convenor Gary and Treasurer George will represent the Society at this event.
Dundee,
Society member Muriel Roebuck sent information to the Society relating to the origins of Dundee Castle. The original wall of the castle is part of the basement of a record shop!
Tartan day USA,
There was some debate by the Society regarding the recipients of the William Wallace award. Sean Connery was the first recipient in 2000.
Duncan read out from correspondence that he & Davie Ross had sent to the organisers, following the leaked news that Tony Blair was the intended recipient. They had voiced their concerns that a man who was no friend of Scotland should not be given this award, & that it would demean the name of Wallace. Duncan received a reply, stating that, in view of the letters they had received, they had decided not to award it that year.
Saltires,
New small paper saltires which we had ordered, have arrived.
Wallace Monument,
Those present discussed the monument in Elderslie which was raised through fundraising organised by The London Scottish Society in 1912. Various alterations to the monument which was constructed by architects, Murray and Minty, have taken place including:
Plaster Moulds in 1917
The Smithfield Plaque in 1956
Bronze colouring by The Clan Wallace in 1970
It is thought that the 6 sided monument should have 6 depictions of Wallace. If that is the case then two are missing. Society member Archie Millar has made enquiries into this in Paisley Museum who have no knowledge of this at present. If anyone has any information on this please contact the Society. Other members agreed to look into this as well.
The meeting ended with the customary jokes….and thanks to Lily for the tea afterwards!
Next Meeting Tuesday 15th June, 2011 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm. Everyone Welcome! |
MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL GENERAL MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 15th MARCH 2011 AT 8.00 PM.
Present: Duncan Fenton, Brian McCutcheon, Gary Stewart, Gordon Aitken, Andrew Ballantyne, Archie Millar, Neil Locheil, George Boyle, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, Irene Clarke, Kimberley Ross, Karen Wilson, Chris MacLeod
Apologies: Jean Millar, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, Alex Scullion, Fiona Douglas, Ziggy Wilson, Craig Wilson, Karen Owens, Susan Coghill, Andy Middleton, Lily Love.
The Convenor of the Society, Duncan, welcomed everyone present and outlined safety procedures for the hall. He introduced the office bearers in turn and the following is a summary of their activities.
Treasurers Report: George reported on the balance and cash flow of the society which remains healthy, including those from the PayPal account.
David’s book is available and is selling well. It was suggested that a facsimile signature be added in some form to those books sold through the society. This would be considered carefully.
The First Minister, Alex Salmond, has requested a copy.
Webmasters Report: George reported that the number of hits were increasing and Facebook communication is doing well.
George is currently updating the website. Members are requested to continue to check the website for the latest information.
The Society is now part of the membership of The Renfrewshire Local History Forum. Check out their website for details.
Press and Media officer: Media related issues which Irene observed and the group discussed included …The Clans. The BBC production. A half hour documentary covered the Clan Stewart!
Culloden, check out the future plans for a commemorative walk by the T.A. on the BBC's website.
The Co-operative. This week marked the 250th anniversary of the foundation of the Weaver’s Society in Fenwick in 1761. This is said to be the first co-op, years older than that formed by The Rochdale Pioneers in England. Check out The Co-Operative website and see a short film.
Merchandise Officer: Ziggy sent his apologies. Sales continue at a steady pace, with online sales including David’s book. Check out the website for current stock.
Vice Convenor's report: The Wallace letter, due to the sensitive nature of the important and serious discussions involved with the plans to return the letter to Scotland, Gary was unable to elaborate on recent events. Society members should check the website and press for up to date information.
The Battle of The Bell o’ The Brae, Gary and George met with a representative from Glasgow City Council Planning Department. They had no problem with the Society’s plan to locate a memorial at a specific spot in the vicinity of Glasgow Cathedral.
Duncan has downloaded the application form and brought it in to the meeting. The forms will now go forward to the next stage where the request will be put to the community via the press. The Society will now have to fund the planning application to take it further. One of the members of the Society present at the meeting gave some good advice on the practicalities of dealing with the official procedures involved.
Visit to London, Gary will be attending the Scotland v Brazil game in London(!) soon. He will also visit Smithfield. He suggested that he take a wreath to the site of the memorial to Wallace on behalf of the Society. Everyone present agreed to this. It will be funded by the Society.
The Tomb of Bishop Wishart, a plaque should soon be in place in Glasgow Cathedral. Discussions continue regarding the exact size and location. The inclusion of a saltire, in whatever form, is still refused, and the Union flag still remains.
Radio show, the Society will feature on Greek radio on the 25th of March, Greek Independence Day, where society members will link up with Dina in Athens for a short talk.
Other items related to Wallace were discussed including Glasgow Museums.
We are also trying to locate the leather sign for the pub named after the Battle of The Bell o’ The Brae.
Convenor’s Report: Loudon Hill. Following a suggestion by William Ballantyne that the Society should commemorate Wallace’s victory at Loudoun Hill, Duncan has had talks with Duncan Thomson, chairman of the Strathleven Artizans, with a view to holding a joint Bruce/Wallace commemoration.
Author Sarah Crome, writer of Scotland’s First War of Independence, will be the main speaker this year. A member of both Societies involved will speak about their respective heroes. A local councillor will also be invited to speak.
William has been to see the proprietors of the Loudon Hill Inn as a suitable venue for refreshments following the commemoration.
William showed members present a miniature stained glass window, based on that of Wallace in Paisley Abbey, which is available in the shop at the Inn.
Duncan has asked Irvine Valley Regeneration Partnership if they would like to send a representative. They were instrumental in planning the Spirit of Scotland Monument at Loudon Hill.
Wallace Day, Sarah Crome has also volunteered to be a speaker at Wallace Day 2011, as has Society member William Ballantyne.
Robroyston, Society Vice Convenor, Gary Stewart will speak at the commemoration there.
Falkirk, Duncan passed round photo’s sent by society member, Marion MacMillan, showing the impressive restoration work at the tomb of John De Graham and the grave marker of Sir John Stewart of Bonkle.
Duncan was sent photos of a pub in Edinburgh named The Radical Road, after the road which was the site of events in 1820. This is owned by member Martin Mitchell. These were also passed round.
Check out the 1820 Society website for more information on yet another piece of history not taught in schools.
Arbroath, check out website for details of commemoration on the 2nd of April.
Stirling Bridge monument, Society members, Ted Christopher and others are working to raise sufficient funds to provide a monument to Wallace and Andrew De Moray, near the bridge. They are in the process of forming a charity for this purpose.
Duncan read correspondence from a variety of different sources and locations including Britanny and Argentina, where there is a school named after Wallace.
Duncan showed members a colour supplement from the Sunday Mail, published in 1998. The first edition of a series called Scotland’s Story. Davie Ross had the inside back page every month documenting his travels all over Scotland as the “Biker Historian”. Seems like just yesterday. Thanks to Flora Strachan for sending this in.
Origins of The Society, There was some debate as to when the Society was actually formed. As far as we aware, a committee was formed to commemorate the unveiling of the Wallace monument in Elderslie, in 1912.
So next year should be a special commemoration for the Society. It was agreed by all present that commemorative T- shirts be printed.
If anyone has any more information on the history of the Society, please get in touch.
David’s Official Book launch, This was held in The Abbot House in Dunfermline with both afternoon and evening events, and was a great success. Dr. Elspeth King & Dr. Fiona Watson were present to speak at the launch. Members of the Society were also there, & were asked to speak in turn.
Kimberley showed members present an article from the local press confirming the very positive response from organisers and readers.
Kimberley reported on a phone call from Donovan Murray from America. He outlined a proposal from The Clan Ranald Trust to house the Wallace coffin in a new development that they are currently constructing. It was suggested that the contents of the coffin and David’s plaid be on display there.
Permission was granted to Australian member, Rabbie Dudgeon, who is involved with the proposal of a new monument to Wallace, to inscribe a quotation from one of David’s books.
A proposal was made by Society member, Hugh Robertson, of Fire and Sword, that Kimberley be made the official Armour Bearer of the Society of William Wallace. All present at the meeting were in favour of this new honour. The Society will purchase some of Davie Ross’s weaponry so it can be carried at future marches & commemorations.
The meeting ended with the customary jokes….we all missed Lily’s tea and refreshments!
Next Meeting Tuesday 19th April, 2011 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm. Everyone Welcome! |
MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL GENERAL MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 15th MARCH 2011 AT 8.00 PM.
Present:
Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Mae Duggan, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, Isobel Lavelle, Tom Lavelle, Gary Stewart, George Boyle, Richard Quinn, Brian McCutcheon, Jim Adams, Alex Scullion, Peter Malcolm.
Apologies:
Ziggy Wilson, Craig Wilson, Lily Love, Chris MacLeod, Jennifer Boyle, Michael Reid, , Andy Ballantyne, Susan Coghill, Andy Middleton, Neil Lochiel, Fiona Douglas, Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens.
Treasurers Report: George reported a healthy bank balance, with new members joining all the time. One of our latest additions is from Mariana Boubee, who runs an English language school in Argentina. Her school is named after Sir William Wallace.
George said he will contact Ziggy, our Merchandise Officer, for a stock report, to see if any new merchandise has to be ordered.
The 300 lapel badges we got last January have now all gone. More will be ordered. It was suggested we could sell Davie Ross’s books using E-Bay. George mentioned that the wee paper saltires that we ordered last year have still not been delivered. Duncan will chase up the order.
Webmasters Report: George reported that the Society website continues to do well. With Facebook link, over 3,000 members get notified of events.
Press and Media officer: Irene spoke on the article which appeared recently in the Sunday Express concerning the launch of David's last book. Irene had contacted the reporter to request the article.
Irene mentioned the recent TV programme, “Fighting Scots”, which featured Wallace & Bruce.
Campaigners are trying to raise £5 million for a new visitor centre at Prestonpans, reported on the BBC’s news website.
Irene has contacted the First Minister, Alex Salmond, to ask if he is available to attend Davie’s book launch at Dunfermline, or this year’s Wallace Day.
Irene continues to badger the media when they get our history wrong, whether by accident or design.
Vice Convenor's report: The Wallace Safe Conduct Letter. Gary told members that efforts continue behind the scenes to secure the return of this document. A further meeting between Scottish & English academics is planned for March. It is hoped Professor Barrow will be able to attend.
Dundee, further to last month’s discussion regarding the possibility of a plaque being installed to Wallace, Gary has spoken to two of our members who stay in Dundee. They will look into this.
The Battle of The Bell O' the Brae, George and Gary had a further meeting with the planning department at Glasgow City Council in the City Chambers. Several sites have been identified as suitable, one of which is in the centre of the Cathedral precinct where the paths intersect.
Everything seems optimistic about this venture.
Gary told the meeting that Albannach & Ted Christopher have now confirmed they will play at Wallace Day.
School visit: Gary was asked to give a talk to a class of 7-8 year-old in an Airdrie school. He took along a variety of weapons & spoke about life during Wallace’s time. He was impressed by the children’s knowledge.
One young lad in particular, Liam Doris, seemed to be well up on the subject. After further discussions with his teacher, Gary suggested the Society make him an honourary member. Duncan agreed & printed up a membership certificate with his name on it, framed. Gary will present this at his next visit. Getting children interested in history at an early age is invaluable. Well done, Gary!
Convenor’s Report: Duncan has been in contact with the band Scocha to ask if they will play at Wallace Day. They have agreed. Duncan will contact them to sort out final details.
The terrific Tulliallan Pipe Band who played for us last year, have also been booked. Members agreed it is good to have most of our plans in place well before Wallace Day.
Sarah Crome, author of “Scotland’s First War of Independence”, has agreed to speak at Wallace Day.
At last month’s meeting, William Ballantyne suggested we should hold a commemoration at Loudon Hill, scene of victories for both Wallace & Bruce. With this in mind, Duncan got in touch with Duncan Thomson, Chairman of the Strathleven Artizans, to suggest a joint venture. They have agreed on the date of 7th May, which is the nearest Saturday to the 10th, the day of Bruce’s victory.
The plan is to gather at the car park & march to the Wallace sculpture, by Richard Price, for speeches. Hopefully, this will be an addition to our annual events calendar. Further details will be given nearer the time.
Duncan showed photos of information plaques in Stirling, regarding the 1820 martyrs, Baird, Hardie & Wilson. Wallace is also mentioned as the martys suffered the same fate as Wallace.
Duncan thanked Richard Quinn for sending him these.
Duncan suggested our members could attend more commemorations by other groups, such as the 1820 Society. George suggested putting a link from our website to theirs, & suggested that Richard set up a Facebook page as we have done.
One of our members in Australia, Rabbie Dudgeon, has obtained permission to build a memorial to the late Davie Ross, either at Lake Wallace or Mount Wallace. A final decision has still to be taken. Rabbie will send Duncan photos of the sites for consideration.
Duncan has e-mailed Davie’s daughter, Kimberley to ask her permission for the go ahead. Rabbie wants to use one of Davie’s quotes on the memorial.
A.O.C.B. George spoke of a phone call from member Andy Middleton, who outlined further plans to upgrade the Wallace site at Robroyston. Andy, with fellow member, Brian Young, intends to clear out all the weeds from the Gad Burn, running past Wallace’s Well. He also intends to buy a further two benches to place beside the monument.
Members agreed the site is a massive improvement, thanks to these guys’ involvement.
Members discussed reimbursing the guys for their financial outlay.
Next Meeting Tuesday 15th March, 2011 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm. Everyone Welcome! |
MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL GENERAL MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 18th JANUARY 2011 AT 8.00 PM.
Present: Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Lily Love, Mae Duggan, Jim Adams, William Ballantyne, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, Isobel Lavelle, Tom Lavelle, Gary Stewart, George Boyle, Chris MacLeod.
Apologies: Laird MacAndrews, Joane MacAndrews, Ziggy Wilson, Craig Wilson, Jennifer Boyle, Michael Reid, Anne Gladwell, Andy Ballantyne, Susan Coghill, Andy Middleton, Neil Lochiel.
Treasurers Report:George reported that the Paypal system of payment of membership and donations is now the method that most society members use.
Expenditure recently included Renfrew District Council annual hall rent, the fee for the band and refreshments at the Christmas party, which constituted a significant amount.
Webmasters Report: George also reported that The Society website continues to do well. With Facebook link, over 3,000 members get notified of events.
Vice Convenor's report: Gary is continuing to ensure that The Wallace letter continues to receive publicity. He has arranged a meeting regarding a press release with national newspapers.
He will maintain contact with respected historian Dr Fiona Watson who has the professional background and expertise to equal the critics of Professor Barrow who stand in the way of the return of the letter.
The Secretary for Culture, Fiona Hyslop has also indicated support.
Bishop Robert Wishart: Gary has been in touch with Lydia Reid who will meet with Historic Scotland to discuss the placing of a saltire beside the tomb of the bishop in Glasgow Cathedral. It is already known that Historic Scotland are not in favour of this.
Other Memorials: Recently there have been suggestions by email to the society of other possible memorial sites related to Wallace e.g. a plaque near Dundee Castle. These show how much Wallace continues to live on in the hearts of many today.
Scotland's forgotten recent history: Gary informed the group to look out for a new Oscar nominated film, Oranges and Sunshine, regarding child migrants pre and post WW2, showing yet another aspect of our history which is not taught in schools.
Singing for Scotland: All members present were delighted to hear of the recent media report relating to forthcoming athletic games that it was great to see Scots kids were singing Scots songs all of whom were of different ethnic backgrounds....a fine example of "one culture, many colours".
The Battle of The Bell O' the Brae: George and Gary continue to be in contact with Glasgow City Council officials regarding the proposal to have some sort of memorial in the vicinity of Glasgow Cathedral. There is optimism that the spot will be a prime site!
Press and Media officer: Irene will be in touch with the Daily Express who intend to do a weekend article on David's book which is now on general release.
Irene thanked George on behalf of the Society for the organisation of the Christmas event held at The Wallace Tavern. The meal and entertainment were excellent and very good value for money. The lack of heat was an issue, which should be resolved for next year!
Irene also informed members of an informal meeting on the 2nd of January at Robroyston to remember our dear friend, patriot and convenor, David on the anniversary of his death. Members said a few words & shared a wee dram in David’s memory.
Irene then returned to the current media related issues observed including the James the 1st and 6th continually in use.
David Cameron was also a topic of discussion with his constant use of "this country", meaning his country.
Merchandise Officer: Sales of merchandise through the website continue. David's new book will also be available.
Convenor’s Report: Duncan commented on an article written by David Campbell of The Sunday Post relating to Historic Scotland who are compiling a list of battlefields. it was noted that many of these revered sites are now covered in houses.
The campaign for a second flagpole to fly the saltire at Edinburgh Castle had been blocked by "some law rubbish"! But Now Historic Scotland have done a U-turn, & the work will go ahead. Duncan thanked Jean & Archie for sending him these news cuttings.
The Saint Andrew's Day Rally last year went very well. Many society members were present. A cheque was presented to Kimberley for the money raised at the David R. Ross held in Edinburgh. This will go to the Bannockburn 2014 Fund.
Fiery Jack & Ted Christopher provided the excellent evening entertainment.
David's Book: Duncan informed members that there will be a formal book launch at The Abbots House in Dunfermline on 25th February. There will be two events.
Between 2 - 4 pm, Elspeth King will be present (tbc)
7 - 9pm, Dr Fiona Watson.
All welcome. Dress code: "all kilted up".....weaponry optional!
David's book is available to purchase now online, from the Society and in bookshops.
Sundials: Duncan has been in communication with the editors of The British Sundial Society, who produce a quarterly journal. They are intrigued by the carved piece given to David at a recent Wallace Day by an Elderslie resident. The possibility that it may be the work of John Mylne, James the Fourth's personal stonemason will be researched further. Duncan sent them his own pictures of sundials across Scotland, and they have asked permission to use them in their publication. This was granted.
Duncan on Greek Radio! Konstantina, who spoke at Wallace Day, got him involved, along with a few others on Voice of Greece Radio show. Also featured were Eddie MacNeill (Faither), young Glen Wood & Adam MacLeod.
Duncan promoted the Wallace commemorations and other related events.
Duncan was very impressed by The band Scotia who he heard in Stirling recently. All present approved his suggestion that he contact them to ask if they would play at Wallace Day.
Duncan received an e-mail from member, Richard Quinn, who suggested that the Society join the Renfrewshire Local History Forum. The fee is £ 8.00 per Society. This will be looked into.
Duncan handed out copies of a picture of a copy of a print of Blind Harry’s “Wallace”. This is not the Hamilton & Gilbertfield edition that we know of, but is by David Stewart Erskine Buchan, printed by R. Morison Junior, in 1790. It shows an engraving of Wallace being led to his execution that he hadn’t seen before.
It can be downloaded free HERE
Lily showed members present some fantastic Envelopes with the image of the face of Wallace produced by The Lanark 700 Trust. Selling at 10p each, orders were taken right away! The possibility of matching paper is to be researched. These envelopes, with saltire stamps would look great together...(demand your saltire, and lion rampant, stamps at the post office)!
Duncan has maintained contact with our American friends who will be visiting Scotland from 31st July to the 9th August. This will co-incide with Robroyston commemorations. Duncan suggested, and all present were in favour of having a get together. Possibly Saturday 6th August in Elderslie Village Hall or the Wallace Tavern. A non-profit making, fund raising night, possibly including an auction is being planned.
We will keep ye posted!
A big thank you from all members to Lily for refreshments following the meeting.
Next Meeting Tuesday 15th February, 2011 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm. Everyone Welcome!
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MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL GENERAL MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 16th NOVEMBER 2010 AT 8.00 PM.
Present: Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Jean Thomson, Lily Love, Chris MacLeod, Gordon Aitken, Andy Middleton, Andrew Ballantyne, Margaret Fraser, Donald Fraser, Jean Millar, Isobel Lavelle, Gary Stewart, Kimberley Ross, James Conner, Neil Gibson.
Apologies: George Boyle, Susan Coghill, Ziggy Wilson, Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Archie Millar, Kirsty Matthews.
The Convenor: Duncan, welcomed all and outlined fire procedure in accordance with the guidelines of Renfrewshire Council.
Prior to the election of office bearers, Duncan introduced a special presentation to members.
Members Irene and Paul Clarke have kindly donated a silver quaich inscribed with the Wallace Society crest and motto. This is to be known as The David Ross Memorial Quaich. The Quaich also contained threads from David’s plaid.
It will be presented each year to the member of the group who has made a significant contribution to the Society throughout the previous year.
Gary Stewart is this year’s recipient for all the work that he has done on the Letter of Safe Conduct.
The quaich was presented by Irene, Duncan said that “He may have the Build of a whippet…but has the tenacity of bull terrier”!
Whisky and lemonade, David’s drink was also given by the Society to toast the big man!
Kimberley Ross also presented a fantastic canvas photograph of her father “Following in Footsteps of Heroes” to Willie Ballantyne for all his work in sourcing and producing David’s banner in time for Wallace Day.
Duncan presented Lily Love with a bouquet of flowers as a thank you from the Society for feeding & watering the hujgry troops all year.
Thereafter the 2009/2010 committee stood down and the following is the result of the Annual Election of Office Bearers, seconded by various members present at the meeting.
Election of Office Bearers for the year 2010/2011
Convenor: Duncan Fenton
Vice Convenor: Gary Stewart
Treasurer: George Boyle
Press and Media Officer: Irene Clarke
Minute Secretary: Christine MacLeod
Webmaster: George Boyle
Merchandise Officer: Ziggy Wilson
Assistant Merchandise Officer: Craig Wilson
Social Convenor: Lily Love
Additional Seconded Committee members: Andy Middleton William Ballantyne, Gordon Aitken.
The newly re-elected convenor, Duncan resumed the meeting.
Treasurer and Web master’s report: Duncan reported on behalf of George, who was on holiday. He thanked him for his work over the year, including his help with our American friends, the quaich, the banner and Wallace Day.
The web page is great and Facebook numbers have reached 2700, the most ever.
Press and Media Report: Irene reported on James The Third’s stone. She is in contact with Historic Scotland and will let the Society know of the date for it’s return to Cambuskenneth Abbey.
The King Robert Hotel in Bannockburn has been booked for the 700th Anniversary in 2014.
Merchandise Report: Sales are continuing. Members are encouraged to check the online shop on the society website
Convenors Report: A DVD has been produced by Fife Council on the Coronation of Robert The Bruce, by Jock Ferguson. It is hoped that this be available to every school in Scotland. The full text could be downloaded for educational purposes. More on this to follow.
The Battle o’ the Bell o’ the Brae: Duncan, George and Gary met with Glasgow Council officials regarding the erection of a monument. The idea is that it would be in the vicinity of Glasgow Cathedral. Previous objections by the council that the statue be a hazard seems to have been dismissed and therefore discussions will continue. Ron Henderson has already sculpted the “Pro Libertate” memorial was suggested as a designer. The idea of a cobbled surround similar to that at Gordon’s cairn in Falkirk was thought to be an excellent one.
The whole organisation of the cairn at Falkirk was discussed as an achievable way of getting things done by the society within budget and involving all members who would like to contribute their time.
Funding and support for this may come from other sources e.g. The Common Good Fund. Schools may also be involved e.g. the inclusion of a time capsule.
If this is successful, the group will have been involved in the erection of more commemorative statues to Wallace’s campaigns than the Victorians!
The Andrew De Moray Project has a committee campaigning for a new 20 foot statue at Stirling bridge. An artist’s impression has already been made and looks very impressive.
The Tom Church Statue of Wallace at the Monument in Stirling has been removed.
Iain McGhee from Robroyston Community Council is producing an information leaflet on the area of the monument. Duncan had a meeting with him & supplied photographs. He asked for permission for the use of the Society’s logo. Duncan sent this on to him.
Duncan informed all present that member, Muiriel Roebuck, was interviewed by The Stirling Observer regarding the protest about the plans for pylons to be placed in Sherrifmuir battlefield site.
Letter of Safe Conduct: Gary continues to make progress and is in communication with Dr Fiona Watson by email. It is felt that we are a lot closer to achieving a positive outcome and getting the letter home!
St Andrews Day Rally: 27th November. Castle Esplanade. 4.30. George Boyle, Ted Christopher and Duncan Fenton.
Entertainment in Lodge Trafalgar with Albannach, Fiery Jack and Ted Christopher.
Subscriptions: Duncan thanked everyone who had already contributed. New members are always welcome.
AOCB: Wallace Day 2011. All present were thanked for the support for and smooth running of the evening event in 2010. Next year we hope for the same. Adherence and respect for the law on alcohol and smoking in particular will help tremendously to ensure that everyone has a great time.
David’s Book, Kimberley reported that her dad’s book is now complete. The publishers have yet to make contact with her regarding a release date. Kimberley will liaise with Ziggy.
Loudon Hill, the possibility of a wreath laying ceremony was suggested by members. A suggestion was made that the Society could join forces with other groups, such as the Strathleven Artisans, to hold a joint Wallace & Bruce commemoration there, as both fought battles in the vicinity.
The meeting was concluded by Duncan who thanked everyone for their continued support and attendance.
Duncan thanked Lily for providing the refreshments and great food that she provided following the meeting.
Date of next meeting? There will be No Meeting in December, however here are the details of the Annual Dinner!
The Wallace Tavern 17th December 20.00 All welcome Entertainment by Fiery Jack.
Next Meeting Tuesday 18th January, 2011 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm. Everyone Welcome!
Nolaig chridheil agus bliadhna mhath ur! Have a guid new year!
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| MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 19th OCTOBER 2010 AT 8.00 PM.
Present: Irene Clarke, Duncan Fenton, George Boyle, William Ballantyne, Donald Fraser, Margaret Fraser, Andrew Ballantyne, Neil Lochiel, Gordon Aitken, Gary Stewart, Lily Love, Jim Adams, Peter Malcolm.
Apologies: Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Andy Middleton, Archie Millar, Jean Millar, Isobel Lavelle, Tom Lavelle, Susan Coghill, Anne Gladwell, Eddie & Malcolm MacNeill, Ziggy Wilson.
A warm welcome was made to all by Duncan.
Treasurers report…George: More subscription money was handed in, including a Paypal payment from SOWW USA, who give our Society a percentage of each membership payment they receive. This is very welcome. Members were thanked for their continued support. Even with the expenditure this year on one-off items that the Society needed, including the Davie Ross banner, our new set of banner poles, PA system, fridge, the hand stamp, & a lot of new merchandise, our bank balance is in a healthy state.
Webmaster’s Report…George: The Facebook Page gains more members every day. We now have 2412 Friends.
Press and Media Officer…Irene: Irene wrote a letter of thanks to the local police station thanking their officers for their help on Wallace Day, & received a nice letter of thanks.
Irene mentioned the fact that we have to enforce the “no drinking outwith the premises” rule more stringently. In the ensuing discussion, it was decided that once everyone is in the hall for the evening’s entertainment, the front door will be locked, but will continue to be manned by the door staff, who will let folk leave that way at the end of the evening. Smokers will be able to use the two fire exits to have a cigarette outside.
Also mentioned was the fact that we had a few teenagers trying to disrupt proceedings during the speeches. Duncan said he will ask the police to have a couple of officers stay throughout the ceremony.
Vice Convenors Report…Duncan: Duncan thanked Jean & Archie Millar for posting him a newspaper article, showing a model of the new proposed statue of William Wallace & Andrew de Moray, which is intended for Paisley. This by renowned sculptor, Sandy Stoddart. The display is currently on at Paisley Museum.
Duncan had a meeting with Ian McGhee, from Robroyston Community Council. They have been asked to produce a leaflet on the Robroyston area, & the Society were asked to provide historical input. Duncan supplied copies of old photos of the Memorial Cross & Wallace’s Well, & his correspondence with Historic Scotland over the de-listing of the well.
Duncan passed round photos of the area surrounding Wallace’s Well, which is undergoing an upgrade. The old concrete in front of the well has been removed & replaced with Caithness slabs. It makes such a difference.
It’s a pity that work on the retaining wall seems to have stalled. Duncan will contact the council again to hurry them on a bit.
Duncan wrote to the National Trust for Scotland to enquire why they have spent £5 million on two abandoned B&Q warehouses - in England!
He wanted to know why, in the wake of closure of many of their properties, & laying off of staff, that they should be taking money raisied in Scotland & spending it in England.
Their reply states that “these buildings have purchased by our investments team for creating a return for specific reserves & pension funds. They are managed by an outside firm”.
So basically, they are playing with their members’ money. If you are a card holder, please make your objections known by contacting them.
Letter of Safe Conduct: Gary gave members an update on the progress of the campaign to secure the return of a possession of Wallace’s. The recent meeting of historians has ended with a enlightening conclusion. They have unamimously agreed that the letter is, indeed the French original from 1300, & not an English copy, which was what Kew continually told us. Make no mistake, this is a massive step forward in this campaign.
Gary supplied details of the forthcoming St. Andrews Day march in Edinburgh, as follows.
Saturday 27th November. March will assemble on the Castle Esplanade at 4pm, march off 4:30 down the Mile led by the Stockbridge Pipe Band Speakers – Duncan Fenton, George Boyle, Ted Christopher, outside the Parliament building.
Night-time entertainment is in Lodge Trafalgar, 1 St Anthony Street Leith.
Entertainment will be Albannach, Fiery Jack & Ted Christopher.
AOCB: George mentioned the forthcoming launch of the “Coronation” DVD, to be made available to all schools in Scotland. It was made by Jock Ferguson of Herald Events. This will take place in Tryst Centre, Dunfermline, on Sat. 23rd October, from 1.00 pm to 3.00pm.
George mentioned that schools in the Renfrewshire area are among the first to declare a holiday for St. Andrew’s Day. Hopefully, this will become the norm.
The meeting ended with a new song from the talented Gordon Aitken. Kate Smith suggested using the words from the back of the “Tir na Nog” t-shirt.
Gordon duly did this & added a middle eight of his own.
The audience were very appreciative.
Thanks to all in attendance.
Next meeting , to be held in Elderslie Village Hall on
Date of next meeting will be the AGM: Tuesday 16th November at 7.45pm 2010 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 21st SEPTEMBER 2010 AT 8.00 PM.
Present: Irene Clarke, Duncan Fenton, George Boyle, Susan Coghill ,Andrew Ballantyne, Gordon Aitken, Gary Stewart, Peter Malcolm, Lily Love, Lesley Matthews, Neil Gibson.
Apologies: Neil Lochiel, Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Andy Middleton, Archie Millar, Jean Millar, Isobel Lavelle, Tom Lavelle, Eddie & Malcolm MacNeill, Ziggy Wilson.
A warm welcome was made to all by Duncan.
Treasurers report: George,
Income was well up due to a fantastic turnout on Wallace Day. The bar made a larger profit than usual, as did Lily’s tea room. The idea of selling hot dogs was a winner.
A lot of subscription money was also handed in. Members were thanked for their continued support.
Webmaster’s Report: George has performed a huge re-vamp of the website. All present agreed it is looking great now. The Facebook Page gains more members every day.
Press and Media Officer: Irene submitted the accounts of the bar takings from Paul.
She thanked all who helped behind the bar & clearing tables, etc.
As the canvas of Davie Ross wasn’t ready in time for Wallace Day, it was decided to hold on to it to be auctioned at next year’s event.
Vice Convenors Report: Duncan showed members the coverage of Wallace Day in the Paisley Daily Express. Once again, they did us justice with a 2 -page centre section of the newspaper.
Duncan did the interview over the phone with their reporter.
Duncan thanked Jean & Archie Millar for posting him the newspaper, & also for putting up the advertising posters around Elderslie before Wallace Day.
Duncan read out a letter from member Neil Lochiel in which he congratulated the Society’s committee on the outstanding success of Wallace Day & Stirling Bridge events.
Duncan received an e-mail from Robroyston resident, Gordon Blackwood, who has joined the fight to save Wallace’s Well. He forwarded e-mails he has sent to MSP’s & the First Minister regarding his concerns.
Duncan read out Alex Salmond’s reply, who has been in contact with Historic Scotland to see if they can liase with the local authority to come up with a solution. It seems that Glasgow City Council have run out of money for this project, but cash always seems to be available for “modern art” projects.
Duncan showed members a book which was recently given to him on Wallace, by Craufurd C. Loudon. This was first published in 1999, & Convenor Davie Ross brought in a copy at the time.
Duncan had to re-iterate just how misleading most of the information contained in this book is. From the very first page, where he gets Wallace’s execution date wrong, it continues with half-truths & fabrications.
The pity is, many people read this nonsense & consider it fact, just because it is in print.
Merchandise Officer: Ziggy phoned Duncan prior to the meeting with the news that our merchandise sold really well this year, again showing a larger profit than usual. A report has been e-mailed to our treasurer.
Letter of Safe Conduct: Gary gave members an update on the progress of the campaign to secure the return of a possession of Wallace’s. A meeting of historians has already taken place, but we are not yet privy to the outcome. A further meeting is planned for the new year. Just because things are not being reported in the public domain, doesn’t mean nothing is happening. Gary urged all to be patient. We have to do this legally & diplomatically.
AOCB:
Gary suggested we should look at the possibility of securing sponsors for next year’s Wallace Day commemoration. Local businesses & breweries were put forward as potential sponsors.
Neil & Lesley brought in two statues for members to have a look at.
One of Wallace & one of Bruce, they stood around 18” high & were crafted by an artist known to them. They suggested talking to him about the possibility of selling copies of these through the Society’s website, with a commission going to the Society. We agreed this could be a good venture.
Meeting ended with customary good humour!
Thanks to all in attendance.
Date of next meeting: Tuesday 19th October at 2010 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 17th AUGUST 2010 AT 8.00 PM.
Present: Jim Adams, Gary Stewart, Irene Clarke, Duncan Fenton, George Boyle, Andrew Ballantyne, William Ballantyne, R Todd (EARS), J Weir (EARS), Jean Millar, Archie Millar, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, Neil Gibson, Lesley Matthews, Peter Malcolm, Chris MacLeod, Lily Love, J Paterson.
Apologies: Susan Coghill, Andy Middleton, Anne Gladwell, Malcolm & Eddie MacNeill, Ziggy Wilson
Society Convenor: Duncan welcomed all and outlined fire procedure in accordance with the guidelines of Renfrewshire Council.
Officers Reports: Treasurer, George, reported on the increase in expenditure last month due to the run up to Wallace Day. All expenditure was deemed essential. By purchasing items required which were previously borrowed through goodwill, enables the Society to be much more self sufficient, cuts down time and benefits the Society in the long term. All members present agreed that it was essential that the Society assist in enabling David’s flag purchased in full prior to Wallace Day.
The rent of the room in Elderslie Village Hall was paid, the cost of which has dramatically increased. It has also been booked for the next three years.
ID hand stamps on arrival at events will assist in ensuring income at the door.
A fridge for the bar will be appreciated by all wishing cold beer!
Income continues through memberships and donations.
Radio Coverage of Wallace Day: Two representatives from local radio station , EARS, which transmits from Elderslie Village Hall, were in attendance for the early part of the meeting to outline their support on Wallace Day.
Society members have already informed Radio Clyde, Rock FM and Celtic Music Radio.
Web master’s report: George commented that the website continues to grow from strength to strength and our Facebook presence is larger than ever!!
Press and Media Report: Irene reported on the continuing quest for the return of a stone slab at Cambuskenneth Abbey related to Wallace at the tomb of James the Third. A Historic Scotland representative stated that it had gone for repair and will inform the Society when it is returned. This stone has not been seen for some time.
Duncan and George thanked Irene for the work done in ensuring that arrangements for the hall and bar are in place for Wallace Day. Including the purchase of a fridge and the hire of glasses for the evening event.
The Return of the Letter of Safe Conduct: Gary continues to ensure that this subject remains in the media.The petition has been added to Facebook.
Professor Barrow’s interview is now available to see online. The results confirmed David’s thoughts on the matter.
Merchandise Report: Ziggy continues to do well with merchandise and is well prepared for Wallace Day. A Society stall will be present throughout the event.
Convenors Report: Society attendance at events, Duncan thanked all those assisting in the attendance and success of the commemorations at Falkirk and Robroyston (with the largest ever attendance).
Equipment: Duncan thanked all who gave up their time for sourcing and purchasing where required, on behalf of the Society, all of the equipment required to ensure the success of Wallace Day 2010. From the banner, stamps, collecting tins, ice buckets to stall holders and licences.
Stalls: Lily reminded everyone who would like a stall at the Village Hall that the fee would be £10 to Society funds. She would also be running the fund raising tea room and requested assistance and donations of baking, sandwiches etc, which are much appreciated by visitors on the day.
Pipe Band: Thanks to members Grant Williamson and Gordon Aitken who gave Duncan the contact number for the Chairman of The Scottish Pipe Band Association. He advertised our details & put Duncan in touch with The Tullieallan Pipe Band, who agreed to play at the Wallace Day march.
Wallace Memorial: The format will include…Wreath Laying…Kimberley Ross.
Speakers…Duncan Fenton, Dr Fiona Watson, Ted Christopher, Christine MacLeod, Gordon Aitken.
Memorial to be decorated with appropriate flags by Society members. Archie Miller always organises this.
50 Copies of Scot’s Wha Hae will be distributed to those in attendance.
Collection Cans will be passed round by Society members.
Safe Conduct Petition to be available.
Evening Entertainment: Both Ted Christopher and Albannach will be present along with informal spots by Society members, ensuring a good night!
Raffle: Irene and Duncan requested that members assist in the donation of raffle prizes for the evening event. An auction will also be held. Members were thanked for their generosity to date. These include B and B at The King Robert Hotel and vouchers for evening meals in local restaurants.
Fund Raising: A Wallace Coat of Arms will be carved by Scott Love. This is to be auctioned at the evening event. James Masterton and Steven MacDougall of Authentic Grass, have also donated items. They also donated a huge print of “The Spirit of Wallace” which be used as a backdrop on the stage at the evening event.
A tapestry photo of David Ross, which has been ordered by Irene, will be auctioned at Stirling Bridge.
Health and Safety: Duncan asked members to consider stewarding on the day. Around 12 are required to assist in the march. Tabards would be purchased for use. This is a health and safety requirement by the Police. Members were also reminded that swords, dirks, etc., are not allowed in the hall in the evening.
The Bar: Duncan and Irene reported that all was organised for the bar at Wallace Day. Irene, Paul, Jean, Jennifer and Chris all volunteered to assist.
Security: Ziggy has organised entrance and exit cover for the evening event, including the use of hand stamps.
Subscriptions: Duncan requested that annual subscriptions are paid in August, around Wallace day, to assist with collection. Duncan thanked everyone who had already contributed. New members are always welcome and a new certificate of membership will be e-mailed to them.
The Douglas Sword: Duncan related a report that the Douglas Sword was auctioned recently for £10,000. He recalls Hugh Robertson telling him that he saw the sword when it used to be in Douglas Museum many years ago. Some how, it found it’s way to the family home of Sir Alex Douglas Hume in The Hirsel near Coldstream.
AOCB: Donations from Dunoon! Duncan thanked Malcolm MacNeil on behalf of the Society for giving the contents of the Donation Tin from his bar in Dunoon. £54 was raised which will be forwarded to the David Ross memorial flag fund.
David’s Book: The publisher continues to seek a picture of The Countess of Buchan for use on the front cover.
The meeting was concluded by Duncan who thanked everyone for their continued support and attendance.
Duncan thanked Lily for providing the refreshments and great food that she provided following the meeting.
Customary jokes shared thereafter!
Date of next meeting: Tuesday 21st September 2010 Elderslie Village Hall 7.45 pm
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| MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 20th JULY 2010 AT 8.00 PM.
Present: Duncan Fenton, Lily Love, Andy Middleton, Jim Adams, Andrew Ballantyne, Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwell, Irene Clarke, Archie Millar, Jean Millar, Peter Malcolm, John Paterson, Frank Boyd, Christine MacLeod, George Boyle.
Apologies: Grant Williamson, Susan Coghill.
Convenor: Duncan Fenton welcomed everyone to the meeting and outlined hall emergency procedure.
Treasurers Report: George Boyle reported income received from Paypal, donations from Wallace USA, contributions to David R Ross Fund, and sale of badges.
Expenditure over the previous month. included the purchase of a Quaich for Wallace USA and a handstamp for use at Wallace Day and other society events.
Regarding stock, sales were lower than anticipated.
George also reported on his recent visit to the USA as a representative of our Society, at the launch of the “Society of William Wallace USA”! , which was a fantastic experience.
George took stock on his visit to Grandfather Mountain Games in the USA. Although sales were low, much goodwill was received.
George suggested that the Society keep stock in the US for future events, which will also save money on baggage charges. This was approved be everyone present. George will liase with Ziggy on the matter.
People were drawn to the tent by the new picture flag of David R. Ross.
Started in Scotland, developed in the US and spread throughout the world.
Webmasters Report: The website is doing well and continues to be kept up to date by George.
In Facebook, The Falkirk Commemoration & Bannockburn Commemoration were highlighted.
Emails. Both Duncan and George commented on the increasing number due to the use of internet communication reaching interested individuals throughout the world.
Press and Media Officer: Irene has maintained contact with Historic Scotland regarding the grave slab of James the Third in Cambuskenneth Abbey.
Other contact was made to the press and media relating to the continued use on TV of Elizabeth the second and the holiday season. Children in Scotland are off on holiday well before those in England and return earlier, yet most of the holiday viewing is scheduled around the English curriculum.
Members Gordon and Karen were thanked for their contribution to the Falkirk commemoration.
Members expressed the desire to include David’s name at future commemorations where he played a major role bringing an awareness to society today, of the contribution made by those who gave their lives for Scotland. Further tributes are planned by the Society.
Donation: Irene and Paul plan to donate a Quaich to The Society. This will be known as The David R Ross Memorial Quaich and will be given annually to an individual within The Society who has made a significant contribution to the Society’s aims throughout the year. Their names will be inscribed on the Quaich. It will be presented at each AGM of The Society.
The Society members present agreed to a suggestion that a bottle of whisky be donated annually from Society funds to compliment the presentation.
Convenors report: Organisation of Wallace Day, Irene will contact Police for presence on the day.
George will obtain bar licence. Licence requires to be paid for. Also licence for permission for the march.
Duncan will contact pipe band.
Local off sales to be contacted as per usual, who supply us on a sale or return basis.
Irene to purchase cooler.
Duncan to obtain ice buckets.
Ziggy to organise door entrance at the village hall in the evening. He will purchase the hand stamps to be used for ease of identification.
Craig Wilson will also be on the door.
Collecting cans to be purchased for use at Wallace Day and other events.
Archie and Jean will put posters in shops in the area.
A request was made for gifts of bottles of wine or spirits or other items for the raffle. Also donations of sandwiches or home baking for Lily’s tea room.
Other Business: Gillies Hill March, Cambusbarron, Duncan represented The Society.
Bannockburn and Falkirk Commemoration, Thank you to Lachlan for laying wreaths at both sites on behalf of The Society.
Flikr,
Photo’s of the events can be seen here, FALKIRK ONE, FALKIRK TWO, BANOOCKBURN ONE, BANNOCKBURN TWO, ROBROYSTON.
Posters: Thank you to George for the above poster of Wallace Day. Duncan printed up hundreds of flyers for Wallace Day, Andrew Ballantyne & John Patterson volunteered to post them through doors in the vicinity.
Robroyston Traffic: Duncan read his letter to and reply from the Glasgow City Council’s Traffic Department regarding his concern, suggesting traffic calming measures and speed bumps. Their reply from was as expected, but they have agreed to replace the small Give Way sign with a larger, fluorescent backed one.
The Society has recorded concern at the possibility of future accidents if they do not take action.
Member William Ballantyne alerted the Society that a saltire at the site had been destroyed. A lion rampant has now replaced it.
Member Andy Middleton’s benches at the site are fine.
Wire brushing of railings and graffiti removal will greatly enhance the area and show pride and respect. Andy continues to upgrade the site with plants & new stone chips. The site is now looking better than it has for many years. Duncan thanked Andy on behalf of the Society.
Sign in Elderslie: The Birthplace of William Wallace sign on entrance to the village has been defaced by graffiti. Duncan will contact the council.
The tomb of Bishop Wishart at Glasgow Cathedral: This is recumbent on an arcade with a union flag beside it. There is no written visitor information on the man who played such a major role in Scotland’s fight for freedom. Although it was recognised that he is mentioned verbally by cathedral guides. Historic Scotland property manager has been contacted. After several e-mails to & from the cathedral, Duncan had a meeting with the Cathedral Guides Convenor, who said that they no plans to install signage to Bishop Wishart, but pointed out that it is mentioned in the guide book.
The union flag is now on the other side of the Nurses’ Chapel.
Input from members abroad: We now have several members from Australia, who are in frequent contact by e-mail, offering input to the Society.
Wallace USA:
Duncan thanked George for his presence on behalf of Society. George reported that the Quaich was greatly appreciated and admired. The Wallace shield along with stars and stripes, was used as a logo on t-shirts printed, and sold to raise funds for The Society. The Laird of Clan Wallace said that the use of the Wallace shield infringed heraldic protocol, so the logo will be redesigned.
Safe Conduct Letter:
Member Gary Stewart continues to pursue this. An interview with Professor Barrow, the foremost authority on medieval history has been released on YouTube, where he states his opinion of the authenticity of the letter. This can also be seen on the Society’s website & Facebook.
Member Ian Clarke continues to contact MSP’s for help. Quite a few have signed the e-petition for the return of the letter to Scotland, including Eric Joyce & Michael Matheson.
A meeting is planned for some time in August in London of those recognised as authorities on the subject.
Newsnight:
BBC 2 Newsnight intends to have a discussion on the Safe Conduct Letter. George has agreed to represent the Society on television.
Leaflets:
A discussion occurred on the possibility of a future leaflet promoting the society.
Flying Saltire! Duncan suggested raising a giant saltire above Stirling Bridge at the commemoration using helium balloons, with the bottom corners tethered to the bridge. In the past, saltires have been draped from the bridge, but a “Flying Saltire” is thought to be a great photo opportunity to attract the press. Duncan will discuss the practicalities of this with others.
David R Ross Flag:
Due to the significance of the fact that Wallace Day 2010 will be the first since David’s death, it was agreed that the Society offer financial assistance to the flag fund to ensure that the new flag with two sets of poles, is ready to be used on Wallace Day.
Key rings: Are now being sold at £1 each. Thanks again to Archie and Jean for assembling them.
The meeting ended with a big thank you to Lily for the refreshments and for her patience!
Date of next meeting Tuesday 17th August in Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45p.m.
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 15th JUNE 2010 AT 7.45 PM.
Present:
Irene Clarke, Duncan Fenton, George Boyle, Andrew Ballantyne, Gordon Aitken, Gary Stewart, Neil Lochiel, Peter Malcolm, Archie Millar, Jean Millar, Isobel Lavelle, Tom Lavelle, Leona Ferguson, Chris MacLeod,
William Ballantyne, Anne Gladwall.
Apologies:
Susan Coghill, Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Andy Middleton
A warm welcome was made to all by our convenor, Duncan.
Treasurers report: George,
Little change in income and expenditure was reported. However, key rings for sale at events and Paypal donations have altered the final balance, resulting in a small increase in profit from last month.
Members were reminded that annual subscriptions would be due in August.
Tribute Flag:
The flag, the idea of member William Ballantyne, in memory of David was enthusiastically discussed. Tapadh leibh William!
David would have been humbled at the positive response when George’s hat was passed round, with money safely kept under it when returned to the treasurer’s heid!
Positive Interest was expressed from our friends across the water in America to receive one in time for Grandfather Mountain Games in North Carolina in July.
Duncan and George will ensure that all graphics are an acceptable representation of David and The Society.
Webmaster’s Report: George,
The current website has been updated. With the connection between Facebook and the website, it means that the message will be received by 1500 people from all over the world, with increasing potential for future development.
Membership forms will also be added in August.
The Albannach website will also include links to the society and flag donations.
Press and Media Officer: Irene,
Historic Scotland are to respond to Irene’s inquiry on behalf of the Society regarding the grave slab of King James III in Cambuskenneth Abbey, which is under their protection. They are still repairing it after an act of vandalism.
Irene has maintained contact with the King Robert Hotel in Bannockburn and has secured the entire hotel for the use of The Society during the weekend of The Bruce commemoration in 2014.
Two MSP’s including Michael Matheson, have signed the petition for the return of the Safe Conduct letter.
Convenors Report: Duncan,
Communication continues between Duncan and Donovan Murray and Eric Johnston regarding the formation of an American chapter of the Society to be called
The Society of William Wallace, USA.
Having already established strong, shared, connections, the Society have seen the positive link widen the cause for which we all have close to our hearts.
The USA group will mirror the Mother group in terms of constitution and will be consistent with the parent organisation.
The joining fee will also include a donation to the Society in Scotland.
At the kind invitation of the organisers, our treasurer, George Boyle will be our representative during the period covering Grandfather Mountain Games and is honoured to be present when the inaugural meeting takes place.
Merchandise Officer: Ziggy,
The message from Ziggy was that new stock would be available soon, so please check the web page for an update!
Thank you to Harry and Diane who sent a donation to us from Seattle!
To wee Glen Wood, of Robroyston one man protest fame, for his donation to the Bannockburn fund!
Robroyston: Society members were greatly impressed at the Fun Day held there by the local community. Photo’s are on the website. A great opportunity to inform through fun, particularly aimed at the younger generation, of the significant history on their doorstep.
The Council have rebuilt the dyke around Wallace’s Well, which looked great until a silver Audi ran through it. Written concern was expressed to the Council regarding the speed of the traffic in the area, suggesting speed bumps and road markers at a clearly dangerous area with potentially serious consequences if nothing is done.
Proposals to increase parking facilities and plant a wild flower meadow in the vicinity of the cross are continuing. Progress will be monitored.
The flag at the monument is missing at the moment, thought to be vandalism. Steps will be taken to rectify this.
Thanks to Iain McGhee from Robroyston Community Council, who will keep the society updated on developments.
Thanks to Andy Middleton for the donation of two benches for the area around the monument. There is potential to develop this area perhaps with flagpoles and containers of plants to enhance the focus and significance of the site.
Bannockburn
26th June. 12.30 – 3.00:
Scott McMaster of the NTS Bannockburn site invited the Society to share a tent with similar organisations such as Crann Tara and Strathleven Artisans. Duncan will be present along with Ziggy who will bring merchandise for sale, including badges . A march will be held with the laying of wreaths.
Duncan will be speaking.
Ted Christopher and band will provide the evening entertainment.
Authentic Grass: Duncan showed a collectors product of grass from significant historical sites encapsulated in Perspex as a fundraiser. The item, which can be used as an ornament or paperweight, looks good and has great potential.
Sundial:
Duncan showed members a drawing of a sundial dated 1689 found at Robroyston, which previously had a house and formal gardens. It’s whereabouts are unknown. It is thought to be worked by John Mylne,who was master mason to King James VI.
Future Publication:
Kimberly Ross, who is working along with the publisher, has her dad’s book almost ready. At the moment, the search for the cover picture of The Countess of Buchan encarcerated in her cage on the walls of Berwick Castle is underway.
Keyrings: Passport picture sized key rings were passed on to Archie and Jean Millar, who volunteered to assemble them for sale at future events. Thank you both!
Posters:
Wallace Day 2010 posters, drawn up by George, will be sent to Jean and Archie who volunteered to distribute them in local shops. Leona Ferguson volunteered to reach local colleges and youth clubs…thanks again!
Recognition:
The quest continues to gain recognition for Bishop Wishart’s burial place in Glasgow Cathedral and other notable figures which formed part of Scotland’s history.
Sculpture:
George is to speak to sculptor Ron Henderson regarding the sketch, manufacture and prices of a previously discussed idea of commemorating The Battle of the Bell o’ the Brae at Glasgow Cathedral.
Letter of Safe Conduct: Kew and the Scottish Parliament have given permission for historians to look at the document. This is to be minuted and recorded on Facebook by the department of MSP Christine Graham. Professor Barrow, Dr Fiona Watson and the National Museum of Scotland are part of the team involved.
A gift:
Tresurer George Boyle suggested that a gift of a Quaich be purchased by The Society to be taken by him to our new branch in America. All members agreed and entrusted George with the organisation of this. Christine MacLeod will add a piece of The Bruce tartan that she wove and what was to be worn by David. Threads were added to this by David himself at Wallace Day 2009. The same threads will be bound to the Quaich and passed on to our new friends.
Meeting ended with customary good humour!
Thanks to all in attendance.
Next meeting to be held in Elderslie Village Hall on Tuesday 20th July at 7.45pm.
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 20th MAY 2010 AT 7.45 PM.
Present:Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Lily Love, Douglas Cassidy, Mark Cassidy, George Boyle, Jim Adams, Gary Stewart, William Ballantyne, Archie Millar, Jean Millar, Thomas & Isobel Lavelle, Andy Middleton, Peter Malcolm,Gordon Aitken, Alex Scullion, Debbie Wallace.
Apologies:Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Ziggy Wilson, Craig Wilson, Susan Coghill.
Webmaster’s report: Continued success of the Society’s Facebook Page, which now has over 1500 Friends. When the annual subscriptions are due in August, George will include a note asking Friends to join the Society.
We have been asked by Scott McMaster, who is in charge of the Bannockburn Heritage Centre, if we would like to share a marquee with fellow society, Crann Tara, at the Bannockburn Commemoration this year. Other organisations, such as Siol nan Gael & the Strathleven Artizans, will also have their marquees set up on the day.
George will contact Ziggy, our Merchandise Officer, to organise this, & asked for volunteers to man the tent.
Irene:Continued her crusade against the constant stream of misinformation from our media regarding Scotland.
She will contact Historic Scotland for up to date information on the stone grave cover of James III, which they had removed from Cambuskenneth Abbey last year. They said it had been broken by vandals, & they had removed it for repair. They had agreed to contact Irene when it was ready to be reinstated, but nothing has been heard since.
She has been told that the photograph that she asked her photographer friend to try to blow up, using specialised equipment, will be ready soon. This shows the small information plaque next to the Wallace Safe Conduct Letter, when it was on display in the National Museum in Edinburgh in 1997. It states that that the letter was, indeed, a possession of Wallace. This will strengthen our case to have the letter returned. Gary Stewart will contact the museum tomorrow to ask if they will confirm this.
Duncan:Gave a report on the recent Andrew de Moray Flag Raising Commemoration at Ormond Castle in Avoch. Several members attended on a glorious sunny day for the march to the castle, speeches, & the old saltire lowered & the new one raised. This was presented to the Andrew de Moray Project by Duncan on behalf of the Society of William Wallace.
We attended their AGM that evening. When asked about ideas to raise the profile & membership of their society, Duncan suggested using the Paypal method for potential members to join up, citing the success that our Society has had in this department.
The evening’s entertainment was supplied by our friend, Ted Christopher, who impressed the locals there with his unique blend of traditional & humerous songs.
Final prepartions were discussed for the Robroyston Fun Day at Wallacewell Primary School. The Society has been asked to provide a presence to speak to kids about the connection between Robroyston & Wallace. Several members will attend, bringing a variety of weaponry & old photos.
The monument at Robroyston is looking better & better. The loose plaque has now been reaffixed, the cracks at the base of the monument have been repointed, the stone bollards have been secured, the retaining wall consolidated & new turf laid.
Andy had asked Duncan if he knew the whereabouts of the original round stone finials which used to sit atop the pillars flanking the monument. These were removed some years ago when the refurbishment of the site took place.
Duncan has contacted Cala Homes to enquire about this, but has since received a reply to the effect that they had nothing to do with the work. So he contacted Stuart Milne Developments, who were the original contractors on the site. He is awaiting a reply. If we could get these back, we could reinstate them on the now secured wall.
The Society again gave a vote of thanks to Andy Middleton & Jimmy Watson for their sterling work.
Marion MacMillan brought in a bundle of leaflets to distribute to members advertising the Stone commemorating the part played by the Men of Bute, as they fought alongside Wallace at the Battle of Falkirk. Each one lost their life on that blood soaked field. The stone was unveiled in Rothesay in 2003. When Marion asked the local council for help with funding for costs of the printing of the leaflet, she was told by the person she spoke to that she had never heard of it, despite it being right in front of the Winter Garden at the harbour.
Gary Stewart: Mark Hirst & Dr. Fiona Watson have had a meeting with the eminent Professor Barrow regarding the Safe Conduct Letter. They will have another meeting in the very near future.
Gary has been contacted by Mark MacNicol who is intending to walk the West Highland Way to raise funds for Childline. He has asked if some Society members could turn up to see him off, to create a bit of public awareness. Gary has spoken to Dr. Fiona Watson & singer Ted Christopher to attend. We can invite the contacts we have in the press to cover the story & we can highlight the case for the return of the Wallace Letter from Kew at the same time. If any members have not signed the e-petition yet could you please visit http://epetitions.scottish.parliament.uk/view_petition.asp?PetitionID=382 & do so. We now have over 2200 signatures, but this could be bettered. Thanks to all who have already signed.
Gary has spoken to Albannach, who have confirmed they will play at this year’s Wallace Day. Duncan asked Ted Christopher, who also confirmed he will also be available on the day.
Duncan & George have had e-mails from our friends in the USA, who have expressed a desire to start up branch of the Wallace Society over there.
Their proposal included various points, including the fact that they will abide by the Society’s constitution. A proportion of monies raised from memberships & merchandise sales will be returned to the Society.
Members agreed that this will result in a higher profile for the Society in the future.
George said that, following the recent successful Celtic Force tour to Scotland, he thought that important links have been forged, & many of our American friends have kept in touch via Facebook.
Jean Miller informed members that our usual Pipe Band, Kilbarchan, will be unavailable for this year’s Wallace Day march. Gary suggested contacting the Starthleven Artizans, who had a Pipe Band for the opening of their new Bruce Heritage Centre. Duncan will deal with this.
William Ballantyne outlined a proposal for a new banner to commemorate Davie Ross. A written draft was distributed among members. This would be a tribute to Davie’s many years of hard work for the Society. The proposed image consists of a photo of Davie backed by a flying saltire. William stressed that the cost of this should not come out of the Society’s funds, saying that Davie would not have wanted that. Instead he proposed to ask members for donations to cover the cost. It was agreed that this will be posted on the website & the Facebook Page. The proposed image will be available to view on the website shortly. Any feedback is welcomed.
This was approved by members, who complimented William on a well presented proposal.
Duncan asked William if he would like to speak at this year’s Robroyston Commemoration, & he has agreed.
Gordon Aitken reminded members that this year’s Falkirk Commemoration will be on 17th July. The Society’s new PA system will be used for this event.
Gordon has been to visit the tree which was planted in 1997 at the north side of the bridge in Stirling, to commemorate the 700th anniversary of the Battle of Stirling Bridge. At a previous meeting, it was noted that inside the railings surrounding the tree, the grass had become overgrown & unsightly. Gordon suggested clearing this out & paving it with some of the cobbles left over from the Falkirk Cairn, built in 2007. Gaps could be left in which to plant Scottish wildflowers, heather, etc. Members agreed that this was a great plan, & Gordon will get on with it.
The meeting ended on a high note, with Gordon singing his latest composition, “Scotland Crazy”. This charts the events of 2005, with Davie Ross walking from Robroyston to London, & the following service & commemoration.
It was very well received by members.
Thanks again to Lily for feeding & watering the hungry troops after a very interesting meeting.
Next meeting will be on Tuesday 15th June. All welcome.
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 20th APRIL 2010 AT 7.45 PM.
Present:
Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Lily Love, Douglas Cassidy, Mark Cassidy, Neil Lochiel, George Boyle, Jim Adams, Gary Stewart, William Ballantyne, Archie Millar, Jean Millar, Andy Middleton, Christine MacLeod, Peter Malcolm.
Apologies:
Thomas & Isobel Lavelle
Webmasters Report:
The use of Facebook by the Society is proving to be very successful.
Photo’s of previous Wallace Day in the 1970s were given for use of the website by society member, Jean millar. All members are encouraged to send in relevant photo’s to the webmaster, for inclusion in the archives of the Society.
There was a request from some overseas members to instigate a branch of the society in their country. Convenor, Duncan, on behalf of those present, stated that the society had no objections to this as long as the aims of the Society are honoured. Should any activity occur that is disreputable to the Society, the Official Society would have to publicly distance itself from any disreputable branch. These requests have come from Australia & the USA. Gary Stewart reflected the feelings of many members of the society present that following the recent US group visit, real connections have been forged for the future.
Press and Media officer…Irene: Media related issues which Irene observed and the group discussed included…The recent “British” election campaign,
the ash cloud from the Icelandic volcano reaching “North Britain”, and the constant inaccurate and unclear use of the term “Elizabeth the Second”.
Bannockburn 2014:
Irene reported that a cost of around £150 - £200 for the weekend, bed and breakfast in the King Robert Hotel is expected for the Society , which has included a generous discount. Irene will negotiate with the manager who has agreed that the final price quoted in 2010 will remain that price in 2014. The hotel staff are also enabling the Society to have the use of the Rob Roy Hotel in Aberfoyle, should demand for rooms exceed that which the King Robert Hotel can accommodate. They are also willing to transport guests who stay there.
Considering the occasion and the fact that it will coincide with Golf’s Ryder Cup, a decision on booking this in advance was approved by members present at the meeting.
Irene obtained the permission of those present to negotiate with the hotel on behalf of the society on the cost of no more than £200 for the weekend. An agreement by members present was also made that any deposit required should come from Society funds, to be paid back at a later date.
Lily raised the question of the organisation of the Bannockburn event. It is understood that the main co-ordinators will be The National Trust for Scotland. Kimberley Ross and Shona MacKinnon are due to discuss preparations with NTS Property Manager,Scott MacMaster. The Society is also fortunate in having Fire and Sword’s Hugh Robertson, likely to be one of the key players in the commemoration as a member. He will keep us informed of developments.
Convenor…Duncan: The Society was pleased to have the presence of Andy Middleton to personally thank him for the great work he did at Robroyston in repairing and upgrading the monument. Also members thanked Andy for organising the David Ross memorial plaque. He is to be commended for all his hard work in cleaning up the monument & surrounding area, including securing the concrete bollards, which vandals keep knocking over.
Glasgow City Council should hang their heads in shame for doing absolutely nothing after repeated pleas for help with this site.
Also there have been some people who have been very vocal about this recently, but have achieved very little with their empty rhetoric. It is action we need, not words.
So well done to Andy & all the members involved in this project.
Members were informed of communication between Duncan and Donovan Murray, one of the organisers of the US visit to Scotland. Due to the huge success of their visit, it is hoped that the new links made will continue well into the future.
Vatican records:
Interest was raised by Archie and discussion ensued on accessibility. Apparently transfers that happen require the backing of distinguished historians and academics who can fight the cause. Gary will continue to liase with Dr Fiona Watson who has that capability and the support of the Society.
USA request:
Linda MacDowall - Lewis from Oregon who had previously been in contact with the Society requested information on Malcolm Wallace, brother of the Patriot.
She also asked if she might promote the Society through her shop, perhaps selling books and merchandise. She wondered also about the availability of a leaflet on The Society.
Gary suggested that the Society send existing copies of The Story of Wallace currently within the stock of the Society, which met with a favourable response from members present.
Wallace Memorial in Elderslie: 2012 will be the centenary year for the unveiling of the Memorial. Members were asked to consider an appropriate commemorative event at the site which has hosted many historic events honouring Wallace.
Letter of Safe Conduct:
Duncan drew the attention of the Society to an article recently published in The Sunday Times by Marc Horne on the request to return the historic document to Scotland with the support of a number of prominent politicians and the “strong and enduring interest” of Scots and those with Scotland in their hearts.
The feelings of the Society will be voiced through the work of Dr Fiona Watson and others.
Lubeck letter:
Society members present agreed that discussions on this letter should favour of it remaining in Lubeck, the city which has looked after it admirably throughout 2 world wars. As the letter does not belong to Scotland, it is felt that the society should concentrate its efforts on that which rightfully belongs here.
Duncan asked members for their support for Robroyston Fun Day, to be held on 22nd May at Wallacewell Primary School.
The Society has been asked to send along some members, suitably kilted up to answer questions on the links between William Wallace & Robroyston. This will include various photos & weaponry.
Robroyston Community website:
Thanks go to the above who have included a link to the site of The Society and the e-petition on the safe conduct letter.
Keyrings:
Society members Jean and Archie volunteered to construct a selection of fund raising key rings promoting the society. The Society will fund the initial outlay of materials.
Images of Wallace, the monument and quotes were suggested for inclusion in the keyrings.
Promotional Posters:
Jean and Archie also suggested that The Society consider how events such as Wallace Day might be promoted in future e.g. the use of posters in the locality.
Birthplace Discussion:
The continuation of the debate was raised when members noticed that Riccarton and other areas in Ayrshire are laying claim to being the birthplace of Wallace. Members were encouraged to re-read books researched and written by Professor Barrow, David Ross &
Professor J. C. Boreland for clarification.
The Wallace Trial:
Members were informed by George that the manuscript is available on the website.
Dates for your Diary
Avoch - Saturday 15th May
Falkirk - Saturday 17th July
Robroyston - Saturday 7th August
Elderslie - Saturday 21st August
Please check website for current information.
Badges:
Some members will carry a small supply of badges promoting the society and raising funds at events. If you’d like to help please contact us.
A new Stand:
This was purchased on behalf of the Society recently, which will compliment the new sound system!
Wallace Day:
Some discussion was held on the 2010 commemoration. Jean will speak to Ivor Campbell of Kilbarchan Pipe Band regarding the event.
Bannockburn 2010:
Duncan was requested to be one of the speakers at the commemoration. A great honour and we all wish him well.
Finally: as has become tradition, to end the meeting, a wee joke….unrepeatable, it has to be heard to be believed!
A big thank you from all members to Lily for refreshments following the meeting….welcome back Lily!
Date of Next Meeting, Tuesday 18th May 2010
Everyone welcome!!!
Remember to check our website for up to date info!!!
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The Society of William Wallace minutes of meeting held in Elderslie Village Hall, Glenpatrick Road on TUESDAY 16th March, 2010 AT 7.45 PM
PRESENT: Duncan Fenton, Mark Cassidy, Douglas Cassidy, Jim Adams, Neil Lochiel, Irene Clarke, George Boyle, P. Malcolm, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, T Lavelle, I Lavelle, Christine McLeod
APOLOGIES: Karen Owens, Gordon Aitken, Ziggy Wilson, Craig Wilson, Gary Stewart, Susan Coghill, Lily Love.
OFFICE BEARER'S REPORTS:
Duncan began the meeting by outlining Renfrewshire Council fire procedures in the event of an emergency.
Treasurer’s report …George: The Society’s balance was read. No expenditure this month, with some income from the sale of T shirts, badges, membership, donations and Paypal, with a small amount of bank interest.
George thanked everyone for their contributions.
A suggestion was made that the Society’s accounts should be amended due to the small amount of interest gained. Part of the funds could be placed in an account with a higher rate of interest which would be of more benefit to the society. The use of a Credit Union was also suggested. Enquiries will be made on behalf of the society.
Webmaster…George: Really positive comments were made on the use of Facebook as a great method of communication. There will be an immediate feeder from this to the main Society of William Wallace site.
If anyone has anything that they would like to contribute, stories or pictures, to the website, please contact the webmaster! Current examples include the Dryburgh statue of Wallace, news cuttings of previous Wallace Days and other events. If you can help, please get in touch.
Media officer …Irene: Irene outlined the fact that the King Robert Hotel has been booked for 2014, which although seems a long way off, is only 4 years away. Members and friends were encouraged to consider booking accommodation as soon as possible. The golfing Ryder Cup is also on at the same time, which will be a competitor for somewhere to stay.
The BBC’s “Seven Ages of Britain” was again criticised for its imbalanced presentation. Irene and Duncan will contact the BBC via email.
The Wallace letter of Safe Conduct. The Society has the support of MSP Christine Graham, who feels assured that Scotland will have it back. A photograph was shown, taken in 1999, with the letter as an authentic document. The petition will be forwarded to our supporters in the USA.
The David Ross Tribute in Edinburgh: A big thank you to all who supported this event at the Three Sisters. It was great to have the opportunity to meet friends and supporters from The States at this memorable event. Thanks also to everyone who contributed their time, for the music, food and in making the event worthy of the man. An auction and raffle greatly helped the cause.
Merchandise: Thanks goes to Ziggy and Craig for manning the stall, where here were good sales of DVD’s, books and T shirts.
24 small sized T shirts have been requested.
Chairman…Duncan: Thanks to member Andy Middleton who made a plaque for David, which was installed at Robroyston. A wee dram was poured over it in his memory!
Jimmy Watson has rebuilt the wall, added chips, attended to the edging and verge around the Robroyston Monument. A tidy job, it looks great. Thanks Jimmy, on behalf of the Society.
Permission will be sought for the erection of a plaque in David’s memory in Stirling.
Duncan thanked everyone for making the meeting of the society and our American friends such a success at The Wallace Monument in Elderslie and The Wallace Tavern.
Duncan also paid tribute to May Macartney who died recently. May was a previous Minute Secretary of The Society.
Arbroath Abbey: Duncan will speak at the commemoration of the Declaration of Arbroath.
Annual Flag raising at Avoch: Now in it’s 12th year that the Wallace Society has had a presence. More details will be given at the next meeting. It is hoped that there will be a good representation from the Society. The Society donates the saltire. The flag from the previous year will be given to the person who raises the new one.
The letter of Safe Conduct: The Catholic Church in Scotland. Enquiries are being made regarding the Letter of Safe Conduct via the Knights of Saint Columba.
Professor Geoffrey Barrow has seen the letter on two occasions and is recorded as being in no doubt that this was written by Phillip IV of France.
MSP Christine Graham’s personal assistant is helping with to deal with the problems created by Kew regarding the whereabouts of the letter in their collection.
Yew Clippings: Following the storm of 2005, saplings were raised from the Wallace Yew in Elderslie. Two were thought to be sent to the new Scottish Parliament. These were indeed planted in the garden at Reid’s Close. Photo’s, a visit and a plaque are future possibilities.
PA system: This has arrived, bought via Pre-Loved and will be a great investment for the Society.
A new Newsletter: It was suggested that a new format of newsletter be introduced. Any ideas will be gratefully received via email to Duncan who will be the editor.
The Strathleven Artizans: Representative Duncan Thomson visited with an invitation for all to attend an event in Renton, to celebrate the opening of the Bruce centre, which the Artizans worked so hard towards. Their achievement will be celebrated on the 27th of March. See website. Duncan will carry the banner on the march through the town and show solidarity from our Society.
Other business outlined by Duncan: Thank you To Melissa Spear for her poem “In Remembrance”, which can be found on our website. She also thanked the Society for the book of poems given to her by Duncan at Davie’s tribute night in Edinburgh. This included the Edwin Muir poem on Wallace, written for the 700th commemoration.
An email from the states suggested a simple memorial plaque to David from his friends overseas.
A suggestion was made to purchase a chill cabinet/fridge for use at the bar on Wallace Day. Enquiries will be made regarding an economical source.
It was agreed that up to £100.00 may be spent on an item/items with the approval of members present on the evening.
Regarding the bar for Wallace Day, Elderslie, Paul is making a spreadsheet indicator of what sells best at Wallace Day, to maximise the efforts of the Society and enjoyment of those attending.
A framed canvas print of David for use at this years Wallace Day was also discussed.
Date of Next meeting…Tuesday 20th April 2010 at 7.45pm
Everyone Welcome!
Remember to check our website for up to date info!!! |
The Society of William Wallace minutes of meeting held in Elderslie Village Hall, Glenpatrick Road on Tuesday the 16th of February at 7.45 PM
PRESENT: Duncan Fenton, Douglas Cassidy, June Adams, Alex Scullion, Lesley Mathews, Neil Gibson, Karen Owens, Gordon Aitken, Archie Miller, Jean Miller, P Malcolm, Duncan Thomson, Ziggy Wilson, Kim Ross, Jim Connel, Neil Gibson, Lesley Matthews, Hugh Robertson, George Boyle, Irene Clarke, Chris MacLeod
APOLOGIES: Malcolm MacNeil, Eddie MacNeil, Susan Coghill, Lily Love
Vice Convenor Duncan welcomed everyone to the meeting as usual, with an especially warm welcome to Kimberley, David’s daughter, who will carry on in her father’s footsteps.
We were also glad to see the safe return of Gordon, our bard, following his recent serious road accident.
OFFICE BEARER'S REPORTS:
Treasurer…George, outlined the balance of The Society.
Since last meeting The Society has purchased a PA system for use at Wallace Day and other events.
Web master…also George. The Pay pal system of membership subscription is now running. A new fee of £5.50 per annum, an increase of 50p, to cover costs.
The new web site enables instant access to everything to do with the Society . It is easy to comment upon and add photos. Thanks George!
OTHER BUSINESS:
Bishop Wishart’s tomb in Glasgow Catherdral: No news on this front as yet. The MSP linked to the Cathedral is writing to Historic Scotland regarding this issue.
Cambuskenneth Abbey: Duncan reported on the suggestion that Wallace’s left arm was buried under a marked stone there. A stone thought to be such had overgrown turf removed. Photos were taken in 2006.
The 700th anniversary tree, which was planted by David Ross and Irene Clarke to commemorate the Battle of Stirling Bridge, is close by. With a view towards The Abbey Craig it was also the spot where Society member Hugh Robertson recently filmed the appeal for Wallace to be the Most Famous Scot.
Media Officers Report…Irene: showed members a photo of David with the actors who played the role of Young Wallace and Hamish in Braveheart.
Bannockburn 2014: Irene has booked 60 rooms at the King Robert Hotel on the 20th and 21st of June 2014 in the name of The Society. The Rob Roy Hotel would also accommodate guests with a free bus.
Member Hugh Robertson reminded members of the commemoration of the Battle of Flodden, which will be held one year earlier is also in the planning stages and would be of interest to the Society. As Hugh is tentatively involved with this on a professional basis, the society will be able to inform members as time progresses.
BBC’s production of “The Seven Ages of Britain”. All present at the meeting agreed, to quote a Herald newspaper comment, that it was “inaccurate tosh”. There was very little, if any, reference to Scots, Irish, Welsh events and treasures.
It was suggested by Irene that, with Kimberley’s permission, the Society contacted the Chief Land Services Officer to place a plaque on the railing beside the tree in Stirling. Irene will liaise with Kimberly in this regard.
Monthly Historical mistakes by journalists in the popular Scottish Press were highlighted at the meeting and once again dealt with on the Societies behalf by Irene!...thanks Irene.
Duncan reported on the expenditure of the new PA system. This will make life easier for all members of the society and audiences at events.
WALLACE'S LETTER OF SAFE CONDUCT:
Unfortunately Gary was not in attendance for a full update as was hoped. Society members heard of cataloguing mistakes at Kew which will further hinder progress. More will be heard on this at future meetings. On a positive note, historian Dr Fiona Watson and Geoffrey Barrow are supporting the movement to have them returned from Kew to Scotland.
Duncan suggested a small group including Kimberley could co-ordinate a diplomatic approach on behalf of the society. Ted Cowan and Louise Yeoman are also possible supportive academics who may assist with this.
Wallace Day 2010: Duncan has been in contact with Fiona Watson and has confirmed her attendance as a speaker at the memorial.
Robroyston 2010. Sandra White MSP has confirmed that he will be in attendance at the commemoration there.
Tributes to David continue to be received by Duncan from all parts of the world. Duncan has attended to them on behalf of the Society…many thanks Duncan for this very difficult duty.
Duncan reported on the society’s link with Electric Scotland, which can only help to inform others on the web.
He also brought awareness of the society to a recent article in the Scotland on Sunday newspaper on tartan registration. So many new tartans have recently been introduced that it has become a fashion design rather than a symbol of identity.
Lanark: Members are keeping a close eye on plans which were made to make a museum with a holiday flat above on the site commemorating Wallace’s wife, Marion Braidfute of Lamington. Nothing has happened on this front. This could have been a fitting place for the 2005 coffin and a museum to Wallace.
Duncan informed members of the generous donation of money and a signed book about Wallace by French author Beatrice Balti who has become supportive through her own interests, foremostly with Joan of Arc. Duncan has thanked her on behalf of the Society.
A number of significant items, including an oil on canvas representation of the Wallace Statue at Drybrough may be auctioned at a forthcoming Tribute Night in Edinburgh. Kimberley has also been offered a guitar for this purpose, and Irene an original Braveheart video. More will follow on this subject soon.
Merchandise Officer…Ziggy: The society has been offered an area in The Post Office in Leith Walk in Edinburgh where it could sell stock on a sale or return basis. He has confidence in the good intentions of the staff involved at this prime site in the city. The Society was supportive of this.
Ziggy is taking on the sale of David’s books and DVD’s on behalf of Kimberley and will liaise with her in all matters regarding this.
Stock could also be sold at the Edinburgh Tribute night.
Ziggy showed prototypes of 3 new car stickers which should go down well with folk!
Ziggy requested and was granted, a float of £100 for postage and packaging of items, to avoid any personal expenses.
The new pay pal method of payment is now up and running and there are encouraging signs of increase in sales of merchandise.
New suggestions always welcome!
Thanks to Ziggy for keeping the merchandise sales up and the enthusiasm going!
OTHER BUSINESS: Society member Archie wondered if the Letter of Safe Conduct could have the positive support of the Roman Catholic Church, as it has been confirmed that the pope will be visiting Scotland at some time in the near future. This could be seen as something which bonds the links with Wallace and the church which meant so much to him.
Society member Gordon thanked everyone for their good wishes and support following his recent accident. He informed members of his activity on two main issues.
The place of the 2005 coffin. As it could take up to seven years for Lanarkshire Council to do something about a museum, he suggested that an appropriate place might be The Abbot’s House in Dunfermline. Dr Fiona Watson is now in charge of the property and may be approached on the matter.
Plaque for David at Stirling. Gordon offered cobblestones for use inside the railings around the tree at Stirling. A similar design could be used as at the Falkirk Cairn, with a plaque commemorating David’s contribution to Scotland imbedded into the design. All present were in favour of this idea…thanks Gordon!
Duncan Thomson Chairman of Strathleven Artisans, and one of the 40 Bowmen of St Sebastian, informed members of the forthcoming event of the opening of the Robert Bruce Heritage Centre in Renton, Dumbartonshire on March 27th.
The meeting ended with fond memories and stories of the big man and a bad joke from George!
No refreshments or eats this evening….we miss you, Lily!
Date of next meeting….Tuesday 16th March in Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm.
Everyone is very welcome!!!!
PS: Remember the meeting on in elderslie on Thursday the 11th March @ 5pm
Late Website News….David had planned to tour with Albannach and over forty American Albannach fans in March this year to show them the sites and explore our wonderful country's history with them, alas it was not to be but everyone on the tour agreed that it should go ahead and be dedicated in David's honour.
Our American friends would very much like to meet up with like minded people, especially those who knew David and have arranged an evenings entertainment with the wonderful Ted Christopher and Albannach at the Three Sisters in Edinburgh's Cowgate on the 14th March. Apologies for it being on a Sunday but it was all arranged at very short notice. This night will be in memory of David and donations will be gratefully accepted with all monies going to Bannockburn 2014 and the Wallace Coffin fund.
The evenings entertainment will be free as the bands have waived their fee but there will be a £10 entrance fee so hopefully we can raise a serious amount of cash for this most worthiest of causes!
It is with regret that we have to inform you of the sad death of another of our members. May Macartney was a long standing member of the Wallace Society and was also our Minute Secretary for many years.
Our sincerest condolences go out to all her family and many friends. |
The Society of William Wallace minutes of meeting held in Elderslie Village Hall, Glenpatrick Road on Tuesday the 19th of January at 7.45 PM
PRESENT: Duncan Fenton, Irene Clarke, Lily Love, Chris MacLeod, George Boyle, Jim Adams, Hamish MacQueen, Bob Irving, Karen Owens, Gordon Aitken, E. McNeill, M. McNeill, Gary Stewart, Jean Millar, Archie Millar, T Lavelle, I. Lavelle, P Malcolm, Heather Ross, Isobel Rogerson, Jean Thomson.
APOLOGIES: Susan Coghill, Ziggy Wilson, Grant Williamson, Claire McColl, Christine Deanie, Nan Irving.
Duncan chaired a very emotional meeting tremendously well considering the recent death on the second of January, of David R. Ross, Convenor of this society
He warmly welcomed everyone as usual. He highlighted the fact that no-one can take the place of David, but the Society of William Wallace must go forward. He asked all members to help share the load for the future, “that what does not break us, makes us stronger”
Tributes to David: Many thanks to all members of the Society who brought along news reports . These will be kept as a lasting tribute to the big man.
Duncan informed members that he had received many emails of condolence from many individuals, groups and organisations, who knew David in many different ways. It showed the impact that David had on the lives of many people and that his words, written and verbal, reached out to many.
There are also tributes on the following websites
http://www.thesocietyofwilliamwallace.com/
http://www.cranntara.org.uk/
http://www.bannockburnband.co.uk/
http://www.albannachmusic.com/
http://www.scotsmagazine.com/emails.asp
http://news.scotsman.com/glasgow/First-Minister-pays-tribute-.5965561.jp
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/obituaries/David-R-Ross.5968587.jp
http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/obituaries/david-r-ross-author-and-historian-1.998815
http://www.eastkilbridenews.co.uk/lanarkshire-news/local-news-lanarkshire/local-news-east-kilbride/2010/01/13/tributes-flood-in-for-ek-historian-and-author-david-ross-68653-25585426/
Duncan will continue to liase with David’s Daughter, Kimberley on behalf of the Society, has offered and will continue to offer, assistance to her at this difficult time.
Developments: Alan Reid from Fife has opened a Facebook Group regarding Wallace’s letter of safe conduct HERE
Thank you to Rob Gibson, MSP for Ross-shire for putting letters into various highland newspapers, informing readers about David.
Condolences were also sent from the Andrew De Moray Project.
A new saltire for Avoch will be required soon for the annual commemoration which will be soon approaching.
Some MSP’s supported the recent motion in the Scottish Parliament on bringing Scotland vibrant history more to the fore within the Scottish Education System….well done them!
Treasurers Report: Our new treasurer, George, gave his first Society of William Wallace Financial Report.
There was some discussion over money. It will take time for the team to adjust to a new system of work. As the new secretary was elected by a quorum, present at the AGM, and entrusted with the finances of the society, all members are asked to support him in every way possible for the benefit of the society as a whole.
Bob Irving was again thanked for his support at treasurer of the Society, which he fulfilled for around ten years. The money is now in George’s capable hands!
A message was reported by George from our Merchandise Officer, Ziggy Wilson, that Kimberley Ross, will settle the merchandise account on behalf of her dad.
Web masters report….Also George!
George is happy for his address to be put on the Society Contact List on the web site.
George also asked if anyone had any photos of David for the Society website, so that he could compose a tribute to him.
A discussion occurred regarding payment methods for worldwide merchandise customers and member’s fees. George will explore the best options available to, and for, the Society.
Change: A discussion ensued looking forward to the future of the group. It was suggested that guest speakers be invited, which would affect the finances of the group. Names of prospective speakers are most welcome!
Wallace Day: Fiona Watson would be contacted by Duncan to enquire if she would be the main speaker at Wallace Day 2010.
Postal address: Duncan will change the postal address of the Society on the printed membership forms.
New Statue of Bruce: Finally, after 150 years, a new statue of Robert, The Bruce, was unveiled on the 18th of January. We hope to have a picture on our website soon!
Memorial at Glasgow Cathedral: Bob Irving enquired about progress. This memorial to those present at the Battle o’ The Bell o’ The Brae continues to be at the planning stage.
Lanark: Lanarkshire Council have ended the hopes of The Society that the coffin of 2005 should rest there. Wallace statue in Lanark, Gordon reported that the statue has been refurbished, but the Lanark sword has not yet been replaced. A similar situation occurred at the John De Graham tomb a few years ago. It was eventually replaced.
Gordon Aitken: Spoke of the kind generosity of Ken Shirra of the Knights Templar in Scotland. Thank you Ken, on behalf of the Society.
Gordon read two moving poems to the society, with thoughts of David, which will be available on the website of the Society. One by Muriel Roebuck of Kirriemuir, the other by Gordon himself, entitled ..A Tribute to a Patriot, David R. Ross, Our Own William Wallace….thanks Gordon!
Gary Stewart: Reported on behalf of Andy Middleton on the state of the monument to Wallace at his place of betrayal in Robroyston. Apparently Historic Scotland are responsible for the Cross only and not the surrounding railings etc. The monument stands within the jurisdiction of Glasgow City Council. This clarification may result in the appropriate people being pressured into action of some sort.
Gary also reported on the future visit of 45 american visitors to Scotland. The tour was meant to be led by David, and will continue. Everyone is asked to lend a hand if possible to ensure that the tour continues with our guid scots hospitality and friendship. Albannach at Menzies Castle, near Aberfeldy, and Fiery Jack have been mentioned so far, but please check website for further developments. This will be an opportunity to fund raise for the Wallace Coffin and 2014 commemorations, …all Society members are asked to support us in any way they can.
Gary was also in contact with a journalist regarding the letter of Safe Conduct. MSP’s Christine Graham and Bob Eadie have given support to the return of the letter. Dr Fiona Watson has also emailed him, backing the return. Donovan Murray in the USA has also given his support and will spread the word to his wide circle of contacts and supporters.
News from George: The American Albanach fans intend to be at The Wallace Monument in Elderslie on the late afternoon of Thursday 11th of March…they would love to meet some of us…can ye make it???
Bowling Trophy: The possibility of offering a bowling trophy to remember Wallace and David Ross was mentioned. Monthly meetings are held in the hall in front of Elderslie Bowling Club, during the summer, members can watch the matches as a backdrop to the meetings!
Tower of London: Betty and Charlotte reported on the forgotten Scots who died in the Tower of London. It is said that a group were forced to put on their own shrouds before being shot. They are thought to be buried in an unmarked grave close to the grave of Anne Boleyn.
Media Officer Irene: Reported on some of the tributes paid to David in the national press and local papers.
Irene also received a telephone call from Scotland First Minister, Alex Salmond and a letter of condolence followed. This was read by Duncan to all present at The Glasgow Ferry at David’s funeral on the 11th of January.
Irene showed the Society a commemorative brooch and piece of plaid which was given to her daughter. This once belonged to a member of the team of the inspirational film, Braveheart, and has a certificate of authenticity. It is her intention to auction it at some point, to raise funds for a future Society commemoration.
Other Business: A discussion happened on how the society should commemorate the life of David R. Ross . Ideas included
….a plaque in London beside the Wallace plaque at St Bartholemews commemorating the events of 2005.
…a bench at the Wallace Tree in Elderslie, or Stirling Bridge.
…a plaque set in cobbles.
Money, time , upkeep and vandalism issues are all factors in consideration but suggestions continue to be welcome.
Bruce Plaid: Chris MacLeod showed the society the plaid that she had completed on the 11th of January. This was meant to be David’s new plaid in The Bruce tartan, woven by her on the 200 year old loom in Weaver’s Cottage, Kilbarchan.
The first threads were put on the frame on Wallace Day 2009, by David himself, before starting the Wallace Commemoration.
As a mark of respect, this plaid will be kept until 2014, and used in some form in the Bruce Commemoration.
Two pieces of the plaid were cut from the cloth and passed on to two significant people. One was symbolically given to his daughter Kimberley and the other to Duncan Fenton. Duncan wore the piece at David’s funeral.
The meeting ended by a show of true appreciation of the big man…a telling (or re-telling)….of some of his bad jokes…..just as it always did!
Thanks to Lily for supplying the buffet for members after the meeting.
Date of next our meeting will be Tuesday the 16th of February at 7.45pm in Elderslie Village Hall, all welcome! Slainte!
Late News: As members discussed ways of creating a lasting tribute to our late Convenor, David R. Ross, a vote was taken to ascertain whether members thought it would be appropriate to use money from the Society’s funds for this. Nearly all members were in agreement, but one member raised a point of order that the whole membership of the Society be consulted on this matter.
So I would ask any member who disagrees with this proposal to lodge their objection with the Webmaster or Vice Convenor.
It is not always feasible, due to time restrictions, to poll every member, & wait on feedback, for every decision, so this has been discussed by the office bearers, & we propose that any decision that has to be taken, is put to the vote to the members attending that particular meeting. With most of the previous decisions, that is what we have always done.
Again, if any member disagrees with this, please raise your objections in the manner stated above. |
The Society of William Wallace Minutes of The Annual General Meeting of The Society of William Wallace held in Elderslie Village Hall Glenpatrick Road, Elderslie. On Tuesday 17th November 2009.
PRESENT: Jean Millar, Isobel Lavelle, Tom Lavelle, George Boyle (Webmaster), Ziggy Wilson, (Mercandise Officer), Chris MacLeod, Gary Stewart, Peter Malcolm, Bob Irving (Treasurer), David Ross (Convenor), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Lily Love (Social Convenor),
APOLOGIES: Archie Millar, Susan Coghill, Craig Wilson
Election of Office Bearers for 2009-2010:The meeting began with the election of office bearers, chaired by Bob Irving. Bob stated that he did not wish to be re-elected as treasurer. The following is the result by election….
Convenor…David R Ross
Vice Convenor…Duncan Fenton
Acting Secretary…Duncan Fenton
Minute Secretary…Chris MacLeod
Webmaster … George Boyle
Treasurer…George Boyle
Media Officer…Irene Clarke
Merchandise Officer…Ziggy Wilson & Craig Wilson
Social Convenor...Lily Love
All posts with immediate effect.
TREASURER (Bob Irving): The balance of the accounts of The Society were read by Bob and approved by members.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross): Re-elected by members present, David proceeded to continue the meeting. He responded to various questions including:
The let of the hall…perhaps an alternative venue could be looked into as the rental has increased dramatically…the hall is booked until July 2010. The general feeling was that Elderslie, the birthplace of Wallace, meant something to most people. The hall was best suited to Wallace Day.
Signatories…Previously Bob Irving and Willie Douglas, requires an update. Bob will continue meantime.
Decline in attendance… .unsurprisingly since the high of 2005 – 2006. A suggestion was made that a series of regular speakers could be introduced. This would require a healthier bank balance to pay for the expenses of other speakers.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan continued to encourage more use of emailing correspondence, which is much more convenient and saves the society over £100.00 per month in postage.
Two thirds of the Society membership is now on email.
A quarterly newsletter was suggested to be sent by regular mail. No decision was taken on this.
Good Exhibition on in The National Library of Scotland.
There was a copy of an excellent article by Rennie McOwan, printed in the Scots Magazine, November 2009, which was distributed and discussed. David Ross is to contact the author for permission of the Society to use his article some time in the future.
David will speak at the St Andrews Day March in Edinburgh.
The Society website was discussed. All agreed that it was looking great.
A big thank ye to George Boyle for the great work!.
George is happy to receive any relevant information which may be added to the site.
Media Officer (Irene Clarke): Continues to scour the press and point out historical inaccuracies when required…an immense task!...Irene accepted re-election to the post…all thought that she's doing a great job!
Topics discussed were current media articles on Blind Harry,The Seal of Lubek and Wallace’s Letter of Safe Conduct.
A Letter read out by David from D MacKinnon of Ostaig House complaining about the Wallace monument site.
STV Greatest Scot…Society member Hugh Robertson did us proud!. He commended Wallace as THE greatest Scot. The results would be known on St Andrews Day
Merchandise Officer,(Ziggy Wilson): Reported that any money made from the sale of Wallace merchandise is ploughed straight back into increasing stock. Ziggy was re-elected to the post...many thanks indeed!!
A suggestion of providing The Society of Wallace book to be included as part of an introduction to Wallace when new members join was discussed.
Ziggy also welcomes any suggestions for new merchandise ideas (things that will sell well!) . Ideas include…mugs, stickers and badges…perhaps including “I’ve brought you to the ring, now dance the best ye can” and “Wallace was Innocent”
Do please let Ziggy know by email, bearing in mind that a large quantity has to be ordered.
Members and friends are actively encouraged to take a look at the great range of stock for personal, gifts which greatly contributed to the support of the society.
George is hoping to get the online shop up and running soon, meanwhile please continue to support us!
SOCIAL CONVENOR (Lily Love): The Annual Dinner is booked for the 4th December at the Wallace Tavern, Elderslie. All are welcome.
Lily, as usual, provided us with great tea, coffee and eats!
The Society really appreciates all she that does for the members.
Tapadh leibh Lily!
The meeting ended with a vote of thanks to Bob Irving for the many years service as treasurer of The Society!

The Society would also like to take this opportunity to wish all our members
a Merry Christmas & prosperous new year.
Nollaig Chridheil agus Blidhna mhath ur!

NEXT MEETING to be held on Tuesday 19th January 2010 at 7.45 pm in Elderslie Village Hall.
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 20th OCTOBER 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: A. Millar, J. Millar, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, Jim Adams, Dorothy Adams, Richard Quinn, George Boyle (Webmaster), Lily Love (Social Convenor), David Ross, (Convenor), Duncan Fenton (Vice Convenor), Bob Irving (Treasurer), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer),
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Susan Boyle, Willie Douglas, Hamish MacQueen,, Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers),
TREASURER (Bob Irving): Several members paid their membership subscription. If any members have not done so, could they please send in their subs as soon as possible. Thanks to all who have paid.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene informed members of the charter granting Royal Burgh status to Perth by King William the Lion in 1210, which has just been repaired & cleaned & the original seal re-affixed. It will be on display at Perth museum next year. Irene suggested a trip by members to go to see it.
Irene told members that the controversial ‘Mel Gibson’ statue which stood at the foot of the National Wallace Monument in Stirling, has now been removed to make way for a new visitor centre.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan contacted Alastair MacIntyre, webmaster for popular website ‘Electric Scotland’. There was an old outdated link to our very first website from years ago. Duncan gave Alastair the details of our new website & asked if he would be good enough to update the link. Alastair replied that he was happy to do so.
Duncan contacted ‘UK Destinations’ website to bring attention to an error in their article on Wallace. It had given the date of the Battle of Stirling Bridge as 1287 instead of 1297. He also informed the editor that another website ‘New Zealand News UK’, had copied their article containing the same error. He received a reply thanking him for pointing it out, & that it was a simple typo. They will also contact the other website to enquire why they have copied their content. The error has now been fixed. Although Duncan also contacted NZ News to point out their error, they have not replied, & the error still stands.
Duncan has purchased two new extending poles for the Society’s smaller banner. This will be taken to other events, not necessarily Wallace-related, but will represent the Society’s presence. This may also increase membership.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross). David told members of his recent travels in the USA. H e visited the Wallace statue in Baltimore, which was erected in 1893, and unveiled on St.Andrews Day of that year.
David asked that more members become involved in contributing ideas and content to the Society. David suggested providing a trophy for the Bowling Club which is adjacent to our village hall. This could be named the “William Wallace Trophy” or something similar, & could be played for each year.
A.O.C.B. Ideas for expanding & enhancing Wallace Day were discussed. Suggestions included getting children more involved with face painting & side shows to entertain them.
Irene suggested buying a fridge or chill cabinet to keep drinks cool in the bar. She also suggested that instead of hiring glasses for the day, which is becoming increasingly more expensive, we should buy our own. After the initial outlay, there would be no further expense.
David suggested handing out wristbands to visitors as they pay their entrance fee at the door at the evening event. This will give us a truer picture of the number of attendees.
The recent commemorations of Wallace Day & Stirling Bridge were discussed. Reports & videos can be found on our website at HTTP://WWW.THESOCIETYOFWILLIAMWALLACE.COM
David thanked Craig Wilson & Andy Currie for acting as door stewards at the Wallace Day celebrations at the evening event.
The annual Wallace Society dinner will be held in the nearby Wallace Tavern in Elderslie, on 4th December 2009.
Thanks to Lily for supplying the buffet for members after the meeting.
NEXT MEETING will be the Annual General Meeting on 17th November 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm |
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN KILBARCHAN WEAVERS COTTAGE ON 15TH SEPTEMBER 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: A. Millar, J. Millar, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, Jim Adams, Dorothy Adams, Christine MacLeod, David Bailey, Richard Quinn, Morag MacLaren, Willie Douglas, Mary McCabe, George Boyle (Webmaster), Duncan Fenton (Vice Convenor), Bob Irving (Treasurer), Nan Irving
APOLOGIES: Susan Boyle, Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), David Ross, (Convenor), Lily Love (Social Convenor), Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers)
TREASURER (Bob Irving): Duncan handed Bob money that had come in from memberships, & money from Wallace Day that David Ross gave to him before he went to the USA.
This month’s meeting followed a different format from the usual. As the Weavers Cottage is a little on the small side, we had to split into two groups. This made talking to all members a little difficult. A decision was made to carry over any business from last month to the October meeting, & let member Christine MacLeod, who works there, give us a guided tour.
First, Christine showed us the 200-year-old loom on which she wove the blanket which will go on Robert Burns’ bed in Burns’ Cottage in Alloway. She explained how the sett was chosen, which natural dyes were used, & which plants they came from. She explained how it had just been completed that day, & that MSP Mike Russell, Minister for Culture, had performed the cutting off ceremony.
Moving back upstairs, we were handed over to guide, David Bailey, who explained the mechanics of making peg rugs. We were split into 2 groups, one of which was set to having a go at rug making. The other was treated to tea & coffee in the next room. After a while we switched places, so that everyone had a turn.
When members had finished their spot of rug making, we were asked to sign our names in a book, which will record all those who helped in the process. These rugs will also be taken for display in Burns’ Cottage, so we all had a share in a little bit of history. Thanks for that, Christine.
We were then allowed to have a browse around the rest of the cottage, which is a cruck-built structure, of which there are not many left in Scotland. There were old style box beds, recessed in the walls, & old crockery & fittings from the period. Even a pair of the obligatory wally dugs on the mantelpiece, which every household used to own.
On leaving, everyone thanked Christine & David for a very enjoyable & educational evening.
NEXT MEETING will be on 20th October 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm |
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 18th AUGUST 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: A. Millar, J. Millar, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, Jim Adams, Willie Douglas, Mary McCabe, Simone Dugas, Eddie MacNeill, Malcolm MacNeill, Lily Love (Social Convenor), Jim Love, David Ross, (Convenor), Duncan Fenton (Vice Convenor), Bob Irving (Treasurer), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer),
APOLOGIES:Nan Irving, Hamish MacQueen, George Boyle (Webmaster), Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers),
TREASURER (Bob Irving): Bob gave Irene & Duncan a cheque for the drink to be purchased on Wallace Day. This was taken to the local shop which supplies us.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke): Irene again had a go at the newspapers for their distortion of history. A recent item said that Walter Raleigh had introduced tobacco to the “British” government & the “British” monarch, Queen Elizabeth I. Most people know that Scotland & England had separate governments & different monarchs at that time.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan read out an e-mail from one of our members in Australia, Robert Dudgeon. Last month he told members of a new book by Dr.Anne McKim. He has since phoned Dr. McKim to tell her that her book had been mentioned at the Society’s meeting, & sent her a copy of the newsletter. Robert said that she was interested in the Society.
Duncan had an e-mail from member Dick Clark about the missing document pertaining to the National Wallace Monument. His friend, Mike Williamson, had the original Confirmation Document to Rockhead, being a family member. Before the 700 anniversary commemorations, Mike travelled from Banchory to the Stirling monument to hand over this one-off document to a Council Officer. The result was, Dick says, his friend was not invited to any of the celebrations, nor even given a letter of thanks.
An e-mail from member Scott Love informed that he has persuaded Radio Station De Tha Dol to publicise Wallace Day on air. He has also been assured that they will advertise other Wallace related events if they are given plenty of notice.
Duncan gave a report on the recent Commemoration at Robroyston, at which Duncan presented young Glen Wood with a certificate of Honorary membership of the Society, in recognition of the work he has done in highlighting the state of the area around the Monument & the Well in the national press.
Duncan reminded members that the Annual Membership is now due & a membership form will be attached to this newsletter. Thanks to all who have already paid.
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CONVENOR (David R. Ross): David had to go in person to the local council offices for the licence for Wallace Day, because they had promised it would be sent by post, but after three weeks, it still hadn’t arrived.
Further to last month’s request, David showed members a detailed report of merchandise bought & sold. This had been sent to him by Merchandise Officer, Ziggy Watson.
The subject of the proposed new badges was raised. Duncan will speak to Ziggy on this at Wallace Day on Saturday.
David attended the Borders Gathering in Dumfries at the weekend & gave a series of talks. He was asked by the organisers if the Wallace Society would like to take a table at next year’s event. This was discussed with a view to taking up this offer.
A subject discussed last month was the missing document from the National Library of Scotland of the proposal for funding to build the National Wallace Monument in Stirling. David has been on to them & it seems that it has turned up. The reason given is that it had been mislaid.
David had a phone call from the new owners of the nearby Wallace Tavern. It had recently changed hands already not so long ago. David asked if they could accommodate members for the Annual St. Andrew’s Day dinner. This was confirmed & a date of Friday evening on the 4th December has been pencilled in. Ted Christopher should be available to entertain us on that evening.
SOCIAL CONVENOR (Lily Love): Lily requested members to donate home baking or sandwiches for the tea room on Wallace Day. Also requests for members to help run tea room.
Lily informed members of the sad death of member Gaston Olivier. Gaston was well liked by all members.
Member Cris MacLeod: Cris reminded members that the next meeting will be at the Kilbarchan Weavers Cottage, where she works. She has been asked by the National Trust for Scotland to weave a new blanket for the bed that Rabbie Burns was born in Burns Cottage in Alloway. All members are invited to come & see the work that is being done. This will be on 15th September. Photography is allowed, so please bring your cameras. |
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A.O.C.B. Final preparations for Wallace Day were discussed. Members agreed we will attempt to attract some high profile speakers in plenty of time for next year
Thanks again to Lily for supplying the buffet for members after the meeting.
NEXT MEETING will be on 15th September 2009 at Kilbarchan Weavers Cottage at 7.45pm |
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 21st JULY 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: A. Millar, J. Millar, Jim Adams, Clare McColl, Heather Ross, Willie Douglas, Mary McCabe, Lily Love (Social Convenor), Jim Love, George Boyle (Webmaster), David Ross, (Convenor), Duncan Fenton (Vice Convenor), Bob Irving (Treasurer), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer),
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, Gary Stewart, Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers),
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene spoke about a recent letter in the press by Derek Parker who branded the forthcoming Wallace day march as an SNP Rally. Willie Douglas had a letter printed the next day challenging his view.
The Society would like to take this opportunity to again stress that we are a non-political, non-racial organisation, & welcome members of any race, religion or political persuasion.
MEMBER WILLIE DOUGLAS: Asked why coverage was given to the recent Bannockburn Commemoration on our website, when this has nothing to do with William Wallace. Webmaster George Boyle answered that there were many Society members at this event so felt that it was appropriate for inclusion.
Duncan voiced the opinion that, strictly speaking, Bannockburn does not have anything to do with Wallace, but neither do events remembering Culloden, Avoch, Killiecrankie, Sheriffmuir, or Arbroath, but many members attend these every year, and so details are published on the website & the newsletters. Many of our members are well up on Scottish history & attend many events not always associated with Wallace.
Willie also asked how much money had ben raised by the sale of Society merchandise. David will contact Merchanise Officer, Ziggy, for an update.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan read out an e-mail from one of our members in Australia, Robert Dudgeon. He recommended a book on Blind Harry’s Wallace, by Dr.Anne McKim, which has over 40 pages of notes at the back which make very interesting reading.
Duncan spoke about the Society’s attendance at the recent Battle of Falkirk Commemoration at Callendar Park.
Duncan also mentioned the changes for the forthcoming march in Stirling to commemorate the Battle of Stirling Bridge. Ted Christopher, who organises this event sent Duncan the details.
This year the march will begin at the Castle Esplanade and down to the old footbridge. The wreath laying & speeches will take place there, & then on to the Rugby Club across the road for the evening entertainment. Details of tickets, prices etc., will be on a poster on the Society’s website.
The Robroyston Commemoration will take place on Saturday 1st August at 2.00 pm. Speakers will be David Ross & George Boyle.
Members Archie & Jean Millar: Said they had met Hugh Robertson, from Living History Group, Fire & Sword, at Kilmarnock recently. He asked if the Society would like him to come & do an illustrated talk. The Society has been educated & entertained by Hugh on previous occasions, & was very well received.
Duncan will contact Hugh to arrange this.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross). David received a phone call from the local council about the application for the drinks licence on Wallace Day. It seems it hadn’t been properly filled out. David will fill out a new form & hand it in personally. Speakers for Wallace Day were discussed. Ken Shirra of the Scottish Knights Templar has agreed to speak, & David will ask Ted Christopher if he would like to speak too.
David spoke about his tour of the USA & said that many Americans are planning to come here for the “Homecoming” & will attend Wallace Day.
Having spent so much time there recently, he has starting learning American history. He showed members a Confederate flag he had brought home, which is based on the saltire. Many Scots who went to America swelled the ranks of the Southern regiments during the Civil War. He showed a photo of a saltire in a museum which was carried into battle by McCowan’s regiment.
David said that the National Library of Scotland has just completed an inventory & it sems there are around 250 documents missing. One of these is the proposal for funding to build the National Wallace Monument in Stirling.
David has been doing interviews with the press recently, & one story they want to follow up is of 13 year-old Glen Wood, who mounted a campaign to improve the state of the area around the Robroyston Monument. Carrying a placard saying “Wallace Deserves Better”, he featured on our website. Now Glen has agreed to do an interview with the press.
David mentioned that the new museum featuring the Black Douglas will open on 5th September in Teba, Spain. It will be housed in the old castle there, where Douglas was killed on crusade carrying the heart of Robert The Bruce.
SOCIAL CONVENOR (Lily Love) Lily requested members to donate home baking or sandwiches for the tea room on Wallace Day. Also for prizes for the evening raffle.
Thanks to Lily for supplying the buffet for members after the meeting.
NEXT MEETING will be on 18th August 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm
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| MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 16th JUNE 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Peter Malcolm, Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Bob Irving (Treasurer), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer),
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, David Ross, (Convenor), Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers), Lily Love (Social Convenor). George Boyle (Webmaster).
Duncan chaired the meeting as David Ross was in the States.
TREASURER (Bob Irving): Bob suggested reminding members that the monthly meeting for September will not take place in Elderslie, but in the Weavers Cottage in Kilbarchan, where Cris MacLeod works. This was discussed at the last meeting. A location map will be included in the August newsletter.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke): Irene continues with her quest to correct the media when they get our history wrong. The Glasgow Herald’s “On this day” feature continually includes mostly English orientated events in history.
Irene also phoned the BBC to complain about an item on their BBC History website. It states that King Henry VIII was responsible for bringing Scotland & England together.
Last year, following the damage to King James III’s graveslab in Cambuskenneth Abbey, Historic Scotland sent it away to be repaired. When Irene inquired about it, they told her they would inform her when the work was completed & where it was going on display. So far there has been no news. Irene will contact them again on this.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): There had been a rumour circulating recently that the Bannockburn March this year had been cancelled.
But details have now been confirmed that the march will leave the 1314 Inn car park at 1.00 pm.
Duncan read out e-mails sent to him by Convenor David Ross. These were exchanges between himself & the councillors who are involved with helping us get permission to erect a monument to the Battle of the Bell o’ the Brae in Glasgow.
One response from the Executive Director of development suggested an inscribed Caithness slab set into the pavement, but Councillor Craig Mackay agrees with us that we should be looking at a higher profile monument than that. He likes our idea of a large claymore with an inscription on it, so that is the project we will go with. The important thing is that Glasgow City Council planning department don’t have any objections at this stage. David has arranged a meeting with the councillors involved. More details will follow on the outcome of this.
Duncan brought in photos of the granite broadsword memorial at Coldstream which was mentioned at last month’s meeting during discussions about the proposed monument in Glasgow. Also a photo of the Bore Stone which used to mark the traditional mustering place of the Scottish army at Borough Muir in Edinburgh. It is now built into the wall of Morningside Parish Church.
Our caretaker at the hall, Charlie, retires in a few days. So, as a token of our appreciation, the Society presented him with a cheque for £50 for all the help he has given us for the last 27 years.
NEXT MEETING will be on 21st July 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm
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| MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 19th MAY 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Jim Adams, George Boyle, Cris MacLeod, Gordon Aitken, Eddie McNeill, Malcolm McNeill, Mae Duggan, Peter Malcolm, David Ross, (Convenor), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Bob Irving (Treasurer).
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Susan Boyle, Jennifer Gilmour, Michael Reid, Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers), Lily Love (Social Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer).
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton) Duncan gave a report on the recent visit to Avoch on the Black Isle, where along with members Eddie & Malcolm McNeill and Irene & Paul Clarke, they attended the flag raising ceremony hosted by the Andrew de Moray Project. As is customary, Duncan presented the group with a new saltire on behalf of the Society. Convenor Rob Gibson MSP, gave a speech, where he highlighted the need for a statue to properly recognise the part played by Andrew de Moray during the Wars of Independence. He is in dialogue with Historic Scotland, who are responsible for the site of Ormond Castle, to further this aim.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross) David brought in the application form for a grant towards the cost of the proposed monument to the Battle of the Bell o’ the Brae, near Glasgow Cathedral. This was duly filled in & designs were again discussed. David will meet again with the coucillors involved when he hands the form in.
David read from an e-mail he received from Ian McGhee from Robroyston Community Council. They are looking at ways to improve conditions around the Wallace Memorial Cross and Wallace’s Well.
Plans may include providing proper car parking, rather than the 3 spaces at present, a footpath from the cross to the well, and general tidying up & renovation. He asked if the Society would like to get involved & invited representatives to their next meeting. This is welcome news after years of trying to get something done about the condition of the area without success.
David told of a recent trip to the visitor center at Bannockburn Heritage Centre. He said that they were only two cars in the car park, & the centre itself was looking a little shoddy, with many of the artifacts that used to be on display there not present. The audio-visual display has been updated, but was not as good as the previous one.
This prompted a discussion among members, who have noticed that more & more of properties under the care of the NTS & Historic Scotland are being staffed by non-Scots. This is not a racial issue – it just seems that Scottish people will know more about their own history & will be a little more passionate about it when dealing with the visiting public & answering their questions.
David talked about the Gathering Stone that used to stand on the Borough Muir in Edinburgh, the traditional mustering place of the Scots army. He had read from old books that it had disappeared from its original location many years ago. Having gone looking for it, he found it just outside Morningside Parish Church, where it was placed in 1852.
David informed members of a bust of Wallace in the Kelvingrove museum in Glasgow.
MEMBER Gordon Aitken Gordon broght in a clipping from the Falkirk Herald, which carried the story of the recent vandalisation of the Falkirk Cairn. Someone had sprayed black paint over the sandstone plaque. Gordon’s comments were noted in the newspaper. Gordon has managed to clean the paint off.
Gordon brought in tickets for sale for the Annual Falkirk Cairn Commemoration on 18th July.
Member Cris MacLeod Cris spoke about an article which appeared in the local press about the Kilbarchan Weavers Cottage, where she works. She has been asked by the National Trust for Scotland to weave a new blanket for the bed that Rabbie Burns was born in Burns Cottage in Alloway. This is to tie in with the Burns “Homecoming” year. She proposed that one of our monthly meetings could be held in the Weavers Cottage, & invited all members to come & see the work that is being done. After discussing this, it was agreed that this would take place on 15th September.
Member Jean Miller Jean said that she will speak to the Pipe Major of the Kilbarchan Pipe Band to ask if they are available to lead the march on Wallace Day.
NEXT MEETING Will be on 16th June 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm
LATE NEWS Duncan received an e-mail from John F. Early from New York City requesting help from our members in locating a drawing of Wallace. Below is his e-mail.
John asks for assistance in re-locating an image he saw five months ago of a personage he strongly believes to be Wallace. John had been looking on his computer for any and all depictions of Wallace, when suddenly he came upon a simple pen and ink drawing. The extremely fine drawing shows the face and uppermost torso of a man in a tunic or nightshirt. John did not download the image or save it on computer hard drive, and ever since has been unable to locate it anywhere.
Of all the portraits of William Wallace that John has seen, he maintains that the man in the drawing he saw looks most like the one hanging in the Stirling Smith Art Gallery and Museum, also same face positioning.
If anyone comes across this image or something similar, please contact John at
JFEARLY1@VERIZON.NET
Received an invite to members for Lachlan’s 50th birthday party. Here is his e-mail.
LACHLAN WILL BE HAVING A (BELATED) 50TH BIRTHDAY PARTY ON THE 17TH JULY (HIS BIRTHDAY IS THE 11TH) ALL MEMBERS ARE INVITED.
AS IT IS THE DAY BEFORE THE FALKIRK COMMEMMORATION ANYONE WISHING TO STAY OVER ON THE 17TH AND /OR 18TH WE CAN PUT UP 8 PEOPLE EITHER INSIDE OR IN TENTS.
FREE BEER N SCOFF N FREE ACCOMODATION.
IF YOU WANT ACCOMODATION OR HAVE ANY QUERIES TEL. 07946 703626 THERE IS ALSO CHEAP ACCOM IN AREA IF WANTED. PARTY UPDATE! FORGOT TO PUT THE TIME ON. 7PM TILL LATE.
THANKS, THE HAIR IN THE CHAIR
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 21st APRIL 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Jim Adams, George Boyle, Richard Quinn, Cris MacLeod, David Ross, (Convenor), Kimberley Ross, Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Bob Irving (Treasurer), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer)
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Gary Stewart, Susan Boyle, Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene showed members a poster advertising a fund-raising abseil down the National Wallace Monument. Members agreed that a building, which is in fact a War memorial, is not a suitable venue for this kind of event. David will contact Stirling Council on this. Duncan was particularly dismayed by the invitation to “text FUN WALLACE” in order to take part. The Society has raised concerns about this in the past, but it still continues.
Irene has applied for the drinks licence for the hall for Wallace day in August. She also contacted the local police, who again agreed to come to the hall periodically on their rounds to make sure we don’t suffer from drunken youths trying to gatecrash.
She also contacted the lady who did the wreaths for our various commerorations last year, who will supply them again this year.
Irene showed members a gift she had recived from a stuntman who had worked on ‘Braveheart’.
A golden clasp brooch with a broadsword flanked by the words ‘Braveheart’ and ‘Freedom’. This was in a presentation box with a 3 x 3 inch square of tartan from Mel Gibson’s kilt, which was worn in the film.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton) Duncan read from a press cutting brought in by Member Jean Millar proposing a modern re-trial for Wallace. David Ross had supplied his opinion which was printed in the Scotsman’s version of the article. This has been brought up in the press before, and members agreed with David when he said we don’t want a pardon for Wallace, because that leads to the assunption that he was guilty.
Duncan read out a news article concerning the National Trust for Scotland, who are suffering a finacial crisis. Plans include shedding 91 jobs and closing up to 11 of its properties to the public to save money.
Another option discussed was to merge with the National Trust in England. Opponents of this have said that it would become a “junior partner of a much larger organisation”. I think we heard something similar in 1707.
WEBMASTER (George Boyle) George told members of a newly launched website which has highlighted the state of disrepair around the Wallace Memorial cross in Robroyston. This can be found at WWW.ROBROYSTON.ORG
CONVENOR (David R. Ross) David said that he has noticed recently an increase on TV and in the press of all things “British”, with advertisers using the Union Flag more & more. He wonders if this is a deliberate effort to promote “Britishness”, as Gordon Brown has always said he wants to do. Also there seems to be more goods on sale on Scotland bearing the Union Jack logo, & less emphasis on the Saltire. Members’ own experiences have reinforced this.
David spoke about the recent commemoration at Culloden which he attended, and also the one for hte “Rout of Moy”.
David had a meeting with Councillor Craig Mackay about the proposed memorial to the ‘Battle of the Bell o’ the Brae’ in Glasgow. He read out a letter he’d received from him. Glasgow City Planning department have so far raised no objections to this& we have been invited to submit sketches of possible designs. This was discussed at length by memberswith some very good ideas being put forward.
David read out an e-mail from Susan Barclay at Robroyston Community Council. She has asked that, follwing the success of last year’s Robroyston Fun Day, some mebers could again come along, suitably kilted up, to help explain the link between Wallace & Robroyston. This will be held at the local Ppimary school. Several members have agreed to do so.
Member Cris MacLeod: Cris said that on a recent trip to the Epcot Centre, she visited the United Kingdom pavilllion. It contained mostly images of England. It’s own website invites you to “travel to jolly old England”.
This is supposedly representative of the whole of the UK.
Member Jean Millar:Jean suggested we make posters advertising Wallace Day in plenty of time this year. She and husband Archie are willing to hand these out to local shopkeepers for display in their windows. This is a direct response to the negative attitude shown by the local council in the past, when we have put up posters on lamposts, only to have them removed the next day by council workmen.
Webmaster George Boyle agreed to produce the posters.
NEXT MEETING will be on 19th May 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 17th March 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Peter Malcolm, W. Clow, (guest),Jim Adams, George Boyle, David Ross, (Convenor), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor)
APOLOGIES:Nan Irving, Bob Irving (Treasurer), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
Member Archie Millar raised a very good point. He suggested that we don’t give out details of the bank balance as the newsletters are now available anyone to read on the website, & not just to members. Members agreed. Duncan will still send out the newsletter to members as usual, but webmaster George Boyle will delete the bank balance entry for posting on the internet.
Convenor David Ross brought in a pile of cheques for subscriptions that he received while he was away, & will post these on to the treasurer. Duncan has a note of these & will mark them up as paid on the database.
Archie also mentioned that there are a few old websites with the domain name of the Wallace Society, or a variant of it, that are no longer functioning, & suggested that we try to et them removed, so that our website will be more prominent to a search engine.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan read out e-mails he has received. An e-mail from member Alan Reid about the renewed attempt by MSP’s to secure the return of the Wallace “safe conduct” letter currently held at Kew. He suggested that more members could write to their MSP & to the press to show the volume of support for this move.
Alan also mentioned that to celebrate 10 years of the Scottish Parliament, a new quotation is being sought for inclusion on the Canongate Wall. There are currently 24 quotes inscribed on stones from various prominent Scots. Alan suggests Wallace’s rallying call, “I’ve brought you to the ring – now dance the best you can”. If members log on to the parliament website they can leave their suggestion. The decision will be made on St Andrews day. Duncan has already done this.
(Since the meeting his letter regarding this has been published in the Scotsman newspaper 20/3/09).
Duncan brought up the subject of setting up a Paypal account on the website. Webmaster George Boyle said he is already looking into this & has asked David Murdoch to assist with the technicalities.
MEMBER Gordon Aitken Following last month’s request for Wallace Day speakers, Gordon has asked Ken Shirra, leader of the Knights Templar in Scotland, to speak. Ken has said that he would be honoured to do it.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross) While in the States, David had a meeting with an American film company who are keen to make a DVD version of David’s book “On the Trail of William Wallace”. This would show the locations of the various monuments & sites relating to Wallace.
He also spoke with the Canadian Tourist Board, who will have the copy of the Wallace sword on loan.
This is the copy that is kept in the National Wallace Monument & not the original. He sword will be going on a tour of Canada, & they have requested permission for the Wallace coffin to accompany it.
No member raised any objection to this.
David read from a news clipping brought in by Jean Millar concerning a new book called “Bannockburn: The Triumph of Robert the Bruce, by David Cornell. The author suggests that the chroniclers got it wrong when they wrote about the numbers of English killed in battle. He states that it was far less because most of them fled. Comments have appeared in the press from David R. Ross, Ian Scott from the Saltire Society and much respected Prof. G.W.S. Barrow, among others, who disagree with Cornell’s interpretation of history.
David read out a report from Media Officer, Irene Clarke, who could not attend the meeting.
Irene had e-mailed Alex Salmond’s office to ask him to speak at Wallace Day. She has received a reply saying that unfortunately, he will be unavailable for that day.
She has also contacted the provost’s office & is awaiting a reply.
David has been told on several occasions that Scots commemorate battles they have lost, but the English don’t, & that the reason for this is that they didn’t lose many. David reckons the reason this view is widely held is because they don’t teach English defeats in their schools. To illustrate this, he spoke about two battles that are all but forgotten in England, Bannockburn excepted. They are the Battle of Bauge & the Battle of Byland.
NEXT MEETING will be on 21st April 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 17th February 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Richard Quinn, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Peter Malcolm, Jim Adams, George Boyle, Frank Boyd, John Paterson, Bob Irving (Treasurer), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer),
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Grant Williamson,Willie Douglas, David Ross, (Convenor), Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
Duncan chaired the meeting as David Ross was in the States.
TREASURER (Bob Irving): Bob asked members for suggestion for speakers for Wallace Day. Also that we should try to get more guest speakers for the monthly meetings. Bob suggested that their expenses could be met from society funds.
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Irene brought in a copy of the recently re-printed book “ The Taking of the Stone of Destiny” by Ian Hamilton. The recent film based on the story will be relesed on DVD on 21st April.
Irene contacted BBC Alba in Stornoway who sent her a recording of a recent programme about Scotland’s past. Selected clips from this will be shown at a forthcoming meeting. |
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MEMBER Gordon Aitken
read from a news clipping about David Mundell, MP for Dumfriesshire, who is introducing a Private Members Bill to ensure that Scottish banknotes are accepted throughout the UK. It received its first reading on January 21 & will be debated further in June.
MEMBERS Jim Adams & John Paterson told members that nearby Johnstone Castle, which has recently been purchased, is being renovated by the new owner.
Member George Boyle
Has taken over as webmaster of the society’s new website, www.thesocietyofwilliamwallace.com George has added a lot of new content to the existing stuff on our old website. He asked members for anything they would like to contribute, like articles or photos. Gordon Aitken suggested excerpts from the CD Rom which descibes the building of the Falkirk Cairn in Callander Park.
Copies of the meetings’ monthly minutes & newsletters can be found on the website. Members are reminded that meeting are held on the third Tuesday of every month, except December.
Duncan sent an e-mail of thanks to David Murdoch, webmaster of Crann Tara’s site, who kindly allowed the society space on their website, & who made the transition from his site to our new domain as seamless as possible.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan read out e-mails he has received.
An e-mail from member George Boyle with the information that Springburn SNP are trying to get the Wallace monument at Robroyston floodlit. Also to have it designated a site of national importance.
Councillor Craig Mackay was contacted by John Toner who asked if it could be possible to erect a plaque of some sort to commemorate the Battle of the Bell o’ the Brae, which Duncan spoke about at the last meeting.
The councillor in turn contacted the societyto see if we wished to apply for funding for this project, & that he would support us. He asked if the society would be interested in assisting in identifying a suitable location and commissioning a plaque. Duncan replied to him, saying that we would like to be involved. This will be discussed further.
Mr Toner also mentioned to Councillor Mackay the lack of an information plaque on the tomb of Bishop Wishart, Wallace’s friend, in Glasgow Cathedral. This has been discussed at previous meetings, with members bing urged to make a comment to that effect in the visitor’s book
An e-mail fom John F. Early from New York. John asked for help in locating a image of Wallace he saw recently. It is a drawing showing Wallace from the waist up. Duncan asked members to let him know if they had any ideas about this.
NEXT MEETING will be on 17th March 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 20th JANUARY 2009 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Richard Quinn, Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor),
Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer),
APOLOGIES: Bob Irving (Treasurer), Nan Irving, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Grant Williamson, David Ross, (Convenor), Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
Duncan chaired the meeting as David Ross was in the States.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene spoke about a programme which was broadcast on BBC Alba around Christmas about Scottish history. She will bring the DVD to a forthcoming meeting.
Irene phoned the Scottish Daily Mail about a recent article entitled ‘British Monarchs’. We are used to sloppy research & this time was no different. Included were Edward I & Henry VIII among others who are obviously English kings. It is difficult to tell whether this is ignorance or arrogance on the press’s part.
Lily phoned Irene about a TV programme due to be shown this Sunday on Channel 4. Reference is made to the “English Isles”
MEMBER Archie Millar sent in a news clipping about a forthcoming talk on Wallace by Alan Steel as part of the 200th anniversary of the founding of Paisley Philosophical Institution. This will take place at Paisley Museum on Thursday, February 26, at 7.30 pm. Admission is free & there is no need to book.
MEMBER Gordon Aitken told members that the date for the anniversary of the Battle of Falkirk will be 18th July this year. Further details to follow.
Gordon sang a new song he has just written called “Patriotic Heart”. It is a rallying call for all Scots of diverse views & persuasions to forget their differences & come together for the greater good of Scotland. Scots have always been too ready to quarrel amongst themselves – it is now time to unite.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton):
Duncan read out e-mails he has received. One is from a Mariana Boubee, who is the owner & director of a private English language school in Argentina, which she opened 14 years ago. She loves Scottish history and named her school the “Sir William Wallace School of English”. She requested any leaflets or brochures from the Society to give to her students, to show them some Scottish history. Duncan sent her the link for the Society’s website.
Another e-mail from a Liz Longden at Capital Press. They are preparing a story for the national press regarding the recent motion lodged in the Scottish Parliament by Murdo Fraser MSP, calling for the return of the Lubeck letter. She asked Duncan for comment on behalf of the Society. This was duly sent.
Another e-mail from Elizabeth Crocket, who has just learned from the press about the safe conduct letter which was taken from Wallace on his capture & now lies in the National Archives at Kew. She asked if there had been any attempts to get it returned. Duncan replied & attached copies of all the relevant letters which have gone back & forth over the years on the subject.
Duncan e-mailed the BBC’s Religion and Ethics website to bring their attention to an error on their article about St. Andrew last year. It gives the Battle of Athelstaneford as 736 AD, when it should have been 832 AD. They replied saying they would amend this as soon as possible, which they have now done.
Duncan has been researching the Battle of the Bell O’ the Brae, which took place in Glasgow in 1297. Wallace’s forces defeated the English garrison of Glasgow Castle, which was under the command of Earl Percy. Having obtained several writers’ views on the subject from 1894, 1911 & 1913, he printed out an account of the battle with maps of the area around Glasgow Castle from differint times in history. This was distributed to members.
NEXT MEETING will be on 17th February 2009 at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 18th NOVEMBER 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
PRESENT: Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, George Boyle, Eddie McNeill, Richard Quinn, Willie Douglas, Mary McCabe, Simone Dugas, Peter Malcolm, Gus MacKenzie, Mae Duggan, Cris MacLeod, Bob Irving (Treasurer), David Ross (Convenor), Kimberley Ross, Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Lily Love (Social Convenor),
APOLOGIES:
Nan Irving, A. Millar, J. Millar, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, Gary Stewart, Susan Boyle, Jennifer Boyle, Michael Reid, Malcolm McNeill, Hamish MacQueen, Grant Williamson, Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers),
TREASURER (Bob Irving): More membership money was collected on the night & David Ross brought in the subscriptions that had been posted to him.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke)
Irene brought in the pull-out poster from the Sun newspaper, which listed Scottish battles. The articles pertaining to Bannockburn & Stirling Bridge had been mixed up, due to sloppy editing. Irene phoned to complain. She also phoned the Sunday Herald about an article they printed about Guy Fawkes, in which they referred to the “British Parliament”. Irene pointed out that Scotland & England had separate parliaments until 1707 – over 100 years later. She phoned the BBC about the recent “Scotland’s History” programme. She protested about Neil Oliver’s continued use of the term “North Britain” when referring to Scotland. She only got a recorded message. It seems as though they must have got fed up fielding complaints from the public about this one.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan showed members the newsletter he had received from the Andrew de Moray Project, based in Avoch, on the Black Isle. Their new website is now operational & can be found at
www.freewebs.com/andrewdemorayproject/
Duncan read from a news clipping sent in by Jean & Archie Millar. Following the broadcast of the first episode of “Scotland’s History”, in which a book was shown from the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris.
It is over 1000 years old and contains the first mention of Scotland to appear in print. Independent MSP Margo MacDonald is tabling a motion to have the book returned to Scotland for next year’s Homecoming celebrations. Even if it is only for a loan, it will give the people of Scotland a chance to see this unique document.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross)
David also phoned the BBC to complain about the “North Britain” tag used in their programme.
David told members about his recent trip to France with Jim Singer & others. They witnessed the unveiling of a plaque to mark the last resting place of Cameron of Loch Eil, in Bergues, near Dunkirk.
They went on to search for the remains of King John Balliol’s castle in Bailleul. With the help of some locals, they found the ruins in some woodland & took photos. David suggested that the Society may build a small cairn with a plaque to mark the site. It is worth remembering that there is a good chance Wallace may have visited Balliol when he was in exile here.
David brought in a sample menu for the Annual Wallace Dinner, to be held in the Wallace tavern, Elderslie. This will be held on the 3rd December 2008, at 7.15 for 7.30 pm. David said that in view of Social Convenor, Lily Love’s contribution in supplying & preparing food at every society meeting, the price of her & her husband’s meal will be met from the Society’s funds. Bob Irving proposed this, & Irene Clarke seconded. All members agreed this was a fitting gesture.
SOCIAL CONVENOR (Lily Love):
Lily informed members that the new saltires that have been ordered for the Scottish Parliament will be made in Hong Kong.
Member Gordon Aitken: Gordon read out a news item outlining proposals for a house to be built in the gap where Wallace’s house stood in Lanark. The intention is to have a Wallace museum on the ground floor & a flat above, which can be rented out to tourists.
Gordon has written a new song which he performed acapella for the members. It is about Wallace mourning the death of his beloved Marion. Members all agreed Gordon is fast becoming a talented songwriter & performer.
ELECTION OF OFFICE BEARERS FOR 2009
The positions were filled as follows:-
Convenor David R. Ross
Vice Convenor Duncan Fenton
Secretary Vacant
Treasurer Bob Irving
Media Officer Irene Clarke
Social Convenor Lily Love
Merchandise Officer Ziggy Wilson/Craig Wilson
Honorary Membership Kimberley Ross
Thanks again to Social Convenor, Lily Love, for providing tea & snacks for members to enjoy after the meeting. The Society appreciates all she does for the members.
NEXT MEETING : As usual there will be no December meeting, so the next meeting will be on 20th January at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm.
David Ross’s newsletter will follow later when he comes back from the USA.
The Society would like to take this opportunity to wish all our members a Merry Christmas &
a prosperous New Year.
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 21st OCTOBER 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Gordon Aitken, George Boyle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Eddie McNeill, Malcolm McNeill, John Paterson, Jim Adams, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, Bob Irving (Treasurer), David Ross (Convenor), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Lily Love (Social Convenor),
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Richard Quinn, Susan Boyle, Hamish MacQueen, Grant Williamson, Karen Owens, Iain Ramsey, Willie Douglas, Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers),
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke)
Irene went to see the film “Stone of Destiny”. She said it was brilliant & urged members to go & see it.
Irene phoned the BBC to complain about a story it ran concerning the film, in which they referred to the scots “stealing back the stone”. When she pointed out that taking back your own property is not stealing, she was given an apology.
Irene contacted Stirling Council about the overgrown state of the area immediately surrounding the commemorative tree at Stirling Bridge. At the recent commemoration, we had to lay the wreaths among grass around two feet tall.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan received an e-mail from the Trust Archivist at St. Bart’s Hospital in London. It seems that the plastic plaque advertising Norman McLeod’s book – which we had removed in 2005 – has been re-glued to the Wallace Memorial stone. Duncan has written back, explaining that this man & his plaque have nothing to do with the Society. He has again contacted Mr. McLeod expressing his annoyance at this act of vandalism, to which McLeod still insists he is not to blame. The police have now been notified of this situation.
Duncan got an e-mail from Councillor Grant Thoms who says that many people are asking him about the future of Wallace’s Well at Robroyston. He sent replies from Historic Scotland Head of Listing, Deborah Mays. She states that “ten years ago there were only a few random stones around the stream”.
Duncan wrote to Cllr. Thoms saying that it was obvious she had never visited the site. Duncan sent copies of all his previous correspondence with Historic Scotland over the years & copies of photos of the well, dating from 1995, 1902 & 1899, this to challenge her statement.
Duncan mentioned a recent newspaper article about moves afoot to create a new award to replace the George Medal with a Scottish one. It cited a case in which a Glagow police officer who saved people during the blitz on Clydebank was awarded the George Medal. The medal is inscribed with the image of St. George, & the citation includes the words “ all of us who love England”.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross)
David told members of his recent speaking tour in the USA. He bumped into fellow member George Boyle on two separate occasions – in two different states!
The history Channel in the US are showing a program called “Warriors” in which David took part, showing the use of weaponry from Wallace’s time.
David reported that a large sign welcoming visitors to Scotland from England had been erected near Southwaite. Member Archie Millar told us that vandals had since torn it down. Archie later sent a copy of the newsaper report.
David also spoke about the recent film about the Stone of Destiny.
Member Jean Millar Brought in a news clippping about historian David Starkey, who is the latest person to have a go at Scottish history. Irene also spoke on this, saying that Starkey’s article claimed that Mary, Queen of Scots was just “a murdering whore” & “the best thing that happened to Scotland was the union with England.”
Members agreed that the best way of dealing with these attention-seeking individuals is to ignore them.
A.O.C.B. The new Wallace Society website was discussed. Duncan said that there were still a few Wallace Society domain names available quite cheaply. It was agreed that member George Boyle will go ahead with setting up the new domain. He will consult with David Murdoch, who kindly runs our current website from within his own at www.cranntara.org.uk/WWallace/index.html
David will advise George on how to set things up & transfer our data to the new domain.
Member George Boyle
Asked David Ross if he could give a talk to a local school, to which David agreed.
Member Eddie MacNeill Asked about the Annual Wallace dinner. David has spoken to the new owners of the nearby Wallace Tavern who has offered us to have the dinner there. It will be on Wednesday 3rd December at 7.15 for 7.30 pm. Price for a three course meal will be £15. This will include evening entertainment by Ted “better than Elvis” Christopher until midnight. Members wishing to attend are asked to reply to David Ross at drross@blueyonder.co.uk
The annual St. Andrews Day March will take place in Edinburgh on the 29th November. David Ross will be one of the speakers. More details to follow.
Thanks again to Social Convenor, Lily Love, for providing tea & snacks for members to enjoy after the meeting.
NEXT MEETING will be the Annual General Meeting on 18th November at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm.
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 16th SEPTEMBER 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT:
Jim Adams, John Paterson, Bob Irving (Treasurer), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor),
Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer),
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, David Ross, (Convenor), Ziggy & Craig Wilson (Merchandise Officers), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
Duncan chaired the meeting as David Ross was in the States.
There was a poor turnout with several members away on holiday & constant heavy rain all day.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene phoned Historic Scotland to enquire further about the vandalised graveslab of King James III. It is now in Edinburgh being repaired. They will contact Irene to tell her when the job has been completed.
Irene wrote to Johnstone police station praising PC’s Ian Johnstone & George Hume, who made several visits to the hall on the evening of Wallace Day to check that everything was OK. Because of this, we had no trouble from the local youths as we have had in past years.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan brought in a stock sheet from Ziggy Wilson detailing stock levels of merchandise, expenditure, etc.
Duncan e-mailed historic Scotland to enquire why the vandalised graveslab was left in a vulnerable position in Cambuskenneth Abbey bell tower. If they had realised it’s importance, why did it not have a small notice next to it, informing visitors what it was? Why wasn’t it put upstairs with the other artifacts, which are kept behind a locked gate? To date there has been no reply.
Duncan showed newspaper clippings from Wallace Day sent to him by Archie & Jean Millar. Also a clipping about author Edwin Moore’s new book, which claims that Wallace “was a murdering coward who butchered thousands of innocent and defenceless people” Duncan will reply to the newspaper.
Duncan read out a news report about a mystery man who claims to know the whereabouts of the “real” stone of destiny. It is reported to be hidden in a cave 120 feet up a sheer cliff face near Arbroath.
Duncan had an e-mail from member Alasdair Russell informing the Society about a temporary exhibition at the Mitchell Library, which will run until the end of the year. It is about printing in Scotland & on display are copies of Blind Harry’s original book on Wallace & the Wallace Seal.
Another e-mail from member Alan Reid who sent a review of a newly published book called
“Bannockburn: The Scottish War & the British Isles, 1307 – 1323” ISBN number 978 0 7486 3333 3.
He also sent in a teachers’ leaflet containing details of a new history project. It begins in November, with 5 episodes shown this year & 5 next year. This will be shown on BBC1 Scotland. There will also be programs broadcast on Radio Scotland, and a new website bbc.co.uk/scotlandshistory.
A copy of the statue “Exiles” which was erected in Helmsdale last year has been unveiled in Winnipeg, Canada. This commemorates the Clearances in the 19th century which saw many Scots settle in Canada.
NEXT MEETING will be on 21st October at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 19th AUGUST 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, George Boyle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Eddie McNeill, David Murray, Eddie Scott, John Paterson, Jim Adams, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, P. Malcolm, Bob Irving (Treasurer), David Ross (Convenor), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Malcolm McNeill, Richard Quinn, Susan Boyle, Hamish MacQueen, Grant Williamson.
TREASURER (Bob Irving): Bob signed cheques for the alcohol for Wallace Day, & the wreaths for various commemorations.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Following reports of vandalism of King James III’s tomb cover at Cambuskenneth Abbey, Irene phoned Historic Scotland to ask why it had been kept in such a vulnerable site. When Irene mentioned that she originally thought they had meant the raised tomb in front of the high altar, the lady she spoke to admitted that she didn’t even know it was there. When the Daily Record covered the story, it carried a picture of King James VIII !
Irene asked members for donations of bottles of alcohol for the bar.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan suggested that one of our collecting tins be put on the bar for customers’ loose change.
Duncan praised David Murdoch for setting up our new website, but called for any member with the experience to take over the running of it, to add new content, etc. He felt this was unfair to ask David to do this, as he is already Webmaster of at least half a dozen other sites. Member George Boyle agreed to do this & will speak to David on this subject. Duncan has many photos that could go on a picture gallery on the site.
Duncan thanked George Boyle for making his first speech for the Society at the recent Robroyston commemoration.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross)
David spoke about the recent success of the Scottish competitors at the Beijing Olympics, & said that it was time that Scotland had its own team to compete in future Olympics, as happens in the Commonwealth games at present.
David informed members that the pub close to the village hall, The Wallace Tavern, is now under new management. He has spoken to the new owner & believes he is a patriot. The pub will also be holding events to commemorate Wallace Day, & it is hoped that this will attract more people to the area & swell the numbers at the celebrations.
SOCIAL CONVENOR (Lily Love) Lily asked for donations of sandwiches, home baking, etc., for the tearoom.
Member Jean Millar has spoken to the Pipe Major of Kilbarchan Pipe Band & they have confirmed that they will lead the march on Wallace Day.
Member Eddie Scott suggested the Society have a stall at next year’s World Pipe Band Championship, held in Glasgow.
Member Gordon Aitken brought in a recent copy of the Falkirk Herald, which featured an article with photos of the commemoration of the Battle of Falkirk, at the newly built cairn in Callander Park.
A.O.C.B. David Ross asked Gordon Aitken if he would like to do a few musical numbers during the ceilidh on Saturday night, while the bands are taking a break. Gordon agreed.
Eddie McNeill said that the friends he will be bringing to Wallace Day have their own instruments, & would be willing to do the same during the breaks.
Irene suggested that Eddie MacNeill be chosen to lay the wreath at the monument this year. This was agreed. All other final preparations for Saturday’s commemoration were discussed.
Could I remind members that the annual subscriptions are now due. This can be paid on the day or by completing & posting the attached form. Thank you again for your support.
Thanks again to Lily Love, our Social Convenor for providing tea & snacks for members after the meeting.
NEXT MEETING will be on 16th September at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm.
P.S. I have been asked to attach this to the newsletter to publicise next year’s Homecoming celebrations.
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As I’m sure you are aware, 2009 is the 250th birth anniversary of Scotland's most famous son, poet Robert Burns. This landmark event has inspired the creation of Homecoming Scotland in 2009, to celebrate Scotland as the Home of Your Ancestors, the Home of Golf, the Home of Whisky and of course the Home of Burns.
As part of Homecoming, there will be an exhibition of contemporary art inspired by the life, poetry and songs of Robert Burns, featuring work by a distinguished group of artists from the UK and overseas. The contemporary work will be presented alongside a small collection of previously unseen Burns’ relics. The exhibition represents a fascinating and unprecedented way to convey the influence and relevance of Robert Burns' work in the present day.
The Exhibition takes place at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow between 4 April – 20 September 2009 and admission is free.
We are firstly looking to encourage Scots and expats to come back to Scotland but also secondly, to visit the exhibition.
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 15th JULY 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, George Boyle, A. Millar, Douglas Cassidy, Willie Douglas, Mary McCabe, Eddie McNeill, Sandra MacGregor, Mae Duggan, Shannon McLaren, Bob Irving (Treasurer), David Ross (Convenor), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer)
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Malcolm McNeill, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, J. Millar, Lily Love (Social Convenor), Jean Nellies, Richard Quinn, Michael Reid, Jennifer Gilmour, Grant Williamson.
TREASURER (Bob Irving):
Bob brought up the subject of stall lets in the village hall for Wallace Day & prices were discussed.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke)
Irene reminded everyone that stalls are not allowed to sell or raffle alcohol, because this has caused problems in the past with under-age drinkers.
Irene phoned the Sunday Herald to complain about an article which equated nationalism with nazism.
Irene will organise the wreaths for commemorations of the Battle of Falkirk, Robroyston & Wallace Day.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan brought in an article from BBC History magazine, which tried to excuse Butcher Cumberland’s actions in the aftermath of the Battle of Culloden. Too many modern day historians seem to want to santise our history to make it more palatable. Member Debbie Bardo e-mailed Duncan to watch out for this article. Duncan remnded members that Doors Open Day is approaching. During the month of September, many properties open their doors free of charge to the public. More information can be found at www.doorsopendays.org.uk
Duncan reminded members that the annual commemoration at Robroyston will take place at the monument on Saturday 2nd August, beginning at 2.00 pm. The Campsie Nairn pub has been booked from 3.00 till 5.00 pm for refreshments. It is situated in Woodhill Road, just off Auchinairn Road (B812). Duncan thanked Scott Love for cleaning the graffitti from the Wallace Stone at Riggend, and tidying up the surrounding area.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross):
David spoke about his recent time in the USA on the Highland Games circuit. He read out a letter he’d received from a Reverend that he’d met. It said that David’s speech had touched him, making him realise that although he is 7 generations American, his bloodline is 100 generations Scots. David also mentioned just how many Amercans speak Gaelic, when there are so few speakers in Scotland.
David read out a letter of thanks to the Society from Robroyston Community Council for members of the Society taking part in their annual fun day, educating people about the links between Wallace & Robroyston.
Thanks to Willie Douglas & Mary McCabe who provided the buffet after the meeting in the absence of Lily Love, our Social Convenor.
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 17th JUNE 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: David Brown, Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Grant Williamson, Richard Quinn, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Marion McMillan, Sandy Bain, Ann Bain, Douglas Cassidy, Willie Douglas, Mary McCabe, Bob Irving (Treasurer), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Malcolm McNeil, Eddie McNeill, David Ross, Hamish McQueen, Betty Burns, Iain Ramsey, George Boyle.
Duncan chaired the meeting as David was in the States at the launch of his new book.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene brought in a news clipping about a proposed statue of Robert the Bruce to be erecterd in Annan – facing across the Solway Firth to where Edward Longshanks’ statue stands in Burgh-by-Sands.
Irene told members that the previously mentioned Silver Bell trophy was competed for at Hamilton racecourse for the first time since 1977. It will now be an annual event. Maybe more of the public will have the opportunity to see it, rather than it being locked in a basement vault.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan gave details of the forthcoming Bannockburn March on 21st June. He mentioned that the Wallace Stone at Riggend, which had been vandalised with paint, has now been cleaned up, and thanked member George Boyle & his friends at the Paisley Tartan Army for this.
Work has begun on the new path leading to the Wallace Memorial Cross at Robroyston. Hopefully, this should be completed in time for the commemoration on 2nd August.
Duncan brought in a quote for prices for the new Wallace Society enamel lapel badge, and has since received three more quotes thanks to George Boyle, who gathered the information. These have now been passed to the treasurer for further investigation.
Member Richard Quinn
Voiced disappointment at the open day at Robroyston not being mentioned at last month’s meeting. The local primary school had asked the Society to send along some members in highland dress to man a table to explain to the public the connection with Wallace & Robroyston. David Ross & some members attended. Duncan apologised for this ommission.
Member Archie Millar
Showed members a leaflet for the Marie Stuart Society, & asked if our Society should be putting out something similar. It was discussed that this was possible to have on display at Wallace related events, but the cost of putting them into visitor centres would be prohibitive.
Member Gordon Aitken
Gave a report on the commemoration of the massacre of the Clan Lamont by the Campbells, which occurred in 1646. This was held last Saturday in Dunoon, and organised by Na Fir Dileas.
Also a reminder that the 1st anniversary of the unveiling of the Falkirk Cairn will take place on Saturday 19th July. The cairn was raised as a memorial to the fallen at the Battle of Falkirk in 1298.
Member Marion McMillan
Brought along a guest, David Brown, who gave a talk on Scottish history, beginning with Alexander III. He covered the Battle of Largs in 1263, & the sad death of the little Maid of Norway.
His talk was interspersed with musical interludes on his harmonica, which included “Loch Lomond”, “Scots Wha Hae”, & “Flower of Scotland”.
He recited the poem “The Ballad of Patrick Spens” & read from a book of 50 favourite poems of Edwin Morgan, called “From Saturn to Glasgow”. The poem he chose was the one he had nominated for inclusion, called “Lines for Wallace”. This had been written for the 700th anniversary of Wallace’s judicial murder.
Marion handed out out copies of this book to members. She also had copies of the Glasgow Herald’s booklet, “Scotland – The Autobiography” & maps of Medieval Glasgow which she distributed amongst members.
David & Marion were thanked by members.
At the end of the meeting, Marion produced a bottle of Scottish Independence whisky, & asked David Brown to break the seal. This was served among members in memory of her late father. Marion told us that this was her father’s wish.
Thanks again to Lily for providing a superb buffet for members to enjoy after the meeting.
NEXT MEETING will be on 15th July at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm.
David Ross's monthly contribution hasn't reached me yet as he is still in the USA. This will be sent out as soon as I receive it.
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MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 20th MAY 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Eddie MacNeill, Malcolm McNeill, Peter Malcolm, Jim Adams, Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens,
T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Richard Quinn, David Murray, George Boyle, John Paterson, Willie Douglas, Mary McCabe, Cris MacLeod, David R. Ross (Convenor),
Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Lily Love (Social Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer)
APOLOGIES: Bob Irving, Hamish McQueen, Grant Williamson, Susan Boyle, Gary Stewart.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene thinks that the Glasgow Herald have finally taken on board her comments about their “On this day” feature in which they consistently confuse Britain with England. The last few entries have made this distinction.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton) Duncan gave a short report on the Annual flag-raising ceremony at Avoch this year by the Andrew de Moray Project, at which he presented the new saltire to Charlie Beattie on behalf of our Society.
Jim Singer from Crann Tara gave Duncan a cheque for £50 for the Society’s funds. This is part of the proceeds of the sale of the DVD which was made of the unveiling of the Battle of Falkirk Cairn last July.
Duncan told members of a visit to Culloden, which although a little pricey at £10 entry fee plus £2 for car parking, he thought was worth it if you hadn’t been before. The highlight is the audio-visual show.
Duncan suggested the Society make more lapel badges for sale as our supply is now exhausted. Member George Boyle offered to look into manufacturers, cost, etc.
Duncan read out an e-mail from member John Mackay, saying that, on a visit to Edinburgh’s Dungeons, the glossy brochure states that the Norman Conquest of Scotland occurred in 1068, & the Union of the Crowns took place in 1606! Duncan asked for any members visiting the Dungeons to bring some brochures to the meeting.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross)
David will be in the USA shortly to launch his new book, “James the Good – The Black Douglas”, which is released on 3rd June.
David visited Dunfermline Abbey recently & was told that during maintenance work on the heating, when part of the floor had been dug up, they had discovered some of the tombs which were thought to have been destroyed during the Reformation.
David told members of his travels in England to research a new project on the women in Scotland’s history.
Member Gordon Aitken Gordon had tickets for sale to members for the anniversary of the Battle of Falkirk commemoration on 19th July.
He gave members a rendition of a song he has written about the Black Douglas, called “Teba Sky”.
Members responded with rapturous applause.
A.O.C.B David asked members for ideas for the 700th anniversary of Bannockburn in 2014. A good discussion followed. John Paterson suggested that people might want to organise a march from their own locality to converge on Bannockburn on the day, reflecting the mustering of troops who would have made their way to the battlefield in groups. It was suggested they carry a banner with their home town written on it.
Duncan suggested each group could bring a stone from their locality to the battlefield, perhaps with their town’s name painted or engraved on it. This could maybe be built into a cairn at a later date to commemorate the 700th anniversary.
Malcolm McNeill Malcolm told members of an upcoming event in Dunoon on 14th & 15th June. Organised by Na Fir Dileas, this will be a march to commemorate the slaying of the Lamonts by the Campbells which took place in 1646. There will entertainment at a local pub in the evening.
NEXT MEETING will be on 17th June at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm. |
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 15th APRIL 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Eddie MacNeill, Malcolm McNeill, Peter Malcolm, Jim Adams, Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Mae Duggan, David R. Ross (Convenor), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
APOLOGIES: Bob Irving, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Willie Douglas, Angus McKenzie, Cris MacLeod, Hamish McQueen, Grant Williamson, Jennifer Boyle, Michael Reid.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene phoned David to during the meeting to say that she had a puncture en route to Elderslie, & couldn’t make it.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross)
David told members of his recent travels in the north of Scotland. He visited Skye & Lewis. He came across a memorial stone to Bonnie Prince Charlie that he hadn’t previously known about at Arnish.
He also visited the memorial to the shipwreck of the Iolaire, which sank on New Year’s Day in 1919. It was carrying soldiers returning from the war. Out of 284 servicemen, only 79 survived.
He visited the newly opened visitor centre at Culloden battlefield, & was impressed by the audio-visual display.
Unfortunately the North-East Wallace Day in Stonehaven has been booked for the same day as our own at Elderslie. which is a shame because many folk like to attend both.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton) Duncan showed a collection of photos taken by former secretery, Willie Douglas. These showed post boxes around Glasgow that still have the King Edward VII cipher on them. Of course Scotland never had a King Edward.
Duncan read out an article which appeared in the Scotsman newspaper last week. It concerned Conservative MP Leslie Clark, who claimed that “ disgruntled southern voters are looking for their own version of William Wallace to free the oppressed English nation.” He also stated that a Tory victory at the next election would be the “biggest threat to the Union since Bonnie Prince Charlie.”
An article in the Scottish Daily Mail claimed that eduction bosses consider that too much emphasis is placed on dates in history, & that communication skills should be considered more important. Duncan believed that historic dates are critically important to proper education, & to retain a sense of chronology.
Member Gordon Aitken Attended the re-enactment of the signing of the Declaration of Arbroath last week & brought in photos of the event.
He informed members of the Battle of Falkirk Commemoration, which will take place on 19th July. Gathering at the tomb of John de Graham outside the parish church, at 1.00 pm, the march will leave at 1.30 pm to the Falkirk Cairn in Callander Park, unveiled just last year. Commemoration led by Scottish Knights Templar, begins at 2.00pm. Evening entertainment will be at Camelon Bowling Club, with Kevin Wilson’s new band, White Rose & Fiery Jack. 7.30 till 12.30.
NEXT MEETING will be on 20th May at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm. |
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 18th MARCH 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Brian Young, Cris MacLeod, John Paterson, Geoge Boyle, Peter Malcolm, Jim Adams, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, David R. Ross (Convenor), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Lily Love (Social Convenor).
APOLOGIES: Bob Irving, Nan Irving, Eddie MacNeill, Malcolm McNeill, Susan Boyle, Irene Rowan, Hamish McQueen.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene read out a short story about Wallace written by our newest & youngest member, Ellie Hunter, who is 6 years old. She is the neice of member Betty Burns. It’s good to see youngsters taking an interest in Wallace.
CONVENOR (David R. Ross) David had been invited to the opening of the new Wallace exhibit at Edinburgh Dungeon. This will deal with Wallace’s torture & death. He gave them a copy of his book, “For Freedom” to use as reference. John Smeaton, the Glasgow Airport have-a-go hero was also present for publicity.
David has also been filming for the History Channel. It will be part of a series called “Warriors”
David brought some of his collection of weapons, including a copy of Wallace’s sword, battle axe & war hammer. He showed members how they were used in battle.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton) Duncan mentioned a newsclipping about history teaching in Scotland. Schools in Glasgow are being given a curriculum pack which explores Glasgow in the medieval period. He also spoke about the forthcoming BBC Scotland programme called “Scotland’s History”. It has already attracted a lot of negative comments from academics for being blantly Anglo-centric. Duncan has been to see the Silver Bell racing trophy which is on display at the National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh. He warned members that if they go to see it, photography is not allowed in the exhibition. Duncan e-mailed Rosslyn Chapel’s website which now also has a no-photography rule. As he has photos from previous visits over the years, he asked why this ban is now in place. No reply has been received as yet.
NEXT MEETING will be on 15th April at Elderslie Village Hall at 7.45pm. |
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ELDERSLIE VILLAGE HALL, GLENPATRICK ROAD, ELDERSLIE ON TUESDAY 19th FEBRUARY 2008 AT 7.45 PM.
PRESENT: Gordon Aitken, Karen Owens, Richard Quinn, Malcolm McNeil, Eddie McNeill, Brian Young, John Paterson, Alex Scullion, George Boyle, Susan Boyle, Peter Malcolm, T. Lavelle, I. Lavelle, A. Millar, J. Millar, Frank Boyd, Bob Irving (Treasurer), Duncan Fenton ( Vice Convenor), Irene Clarke, ( Media Officer), Elizabeth Gosnay (Minute Secretery).
APOLOGIES: Nan Irving, Lily Love, Angus McKenzie, Jamie Wright, David Ross, Brian Young, Grant Williamson, Fiona Douglas, Hamish McQueen, Morag McLaren, Willie Douglas
Duncan chaired the meeting as David had a prior speaking engagement.
MEDIA OFFICER ( Irene Clarke) Irene phoned the Glasgow Herald about an article which mentioned King James II. She pointed out that although they meant James VII of Scotland and II of England, they never make this clear. This means that young people who are just learning our history may be confused. The book about St. Mungo mentioned at last month’s meeting is now on display at Glasgow Cathedral.
Irene spoke about a news item from 13th February. A ring which was used by Jacobite agents to identify themselves while carrying secret messages from Bonnie Prince Charlie has been sold at auction. Originally valued at £3000, it sold for £12,200. The ring, set with an emerald, was carried to prove the message had originated from the exiled prince.
DEPUTY CONVENOR ( Duncan Fenton): Duncan spoke about a news clipping sent to him by Archie & Jean Millar. It mentioned a forthcoming five part TV series on Scottish history. It will portray William Wallace as a failure, Robert the Bruce as a king who struggled to keep power, and that Scotland agreed willingly to the union with England in 1707. There was no mention of the programme makers or which channel will be showing it, only that it will be aired in the Autumn.
The teaching of Scottish history in schools was discussed.
Duncan informed the members about a small mausoleum in Kilsyth cemetery which contains the embalmed remains of Jean Cochrane & her son. She had been the wife of John Graham of Claverhouse, Bonnie Dundee. After Dundee was killed at the Battle of Killiecrankie, she married William Livingstone, who succeeded his father as third Viscount of Kilsyth. Whilst living in Holland, the turf roof of their cottage fell in, & they were both killed, although Livingstone was rescued. Their bodies were embalmed & sent back to Kilsyth to be interred there. The 19th century mausoleum occupies the site of the 16th century Monyabroch Kirk. More information can be found here.
David had intended to do the Wallace slideshow, but as he could not attend the meeting, Duncan showed a home video of the Knights of Royal England performing a medieval jousting display, shot at Linlithgow Palace in 2001.
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